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Old 09-08-2015, 06:51 PM   #29
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Originally Posted by Pops90gt View Post
Thanks for all the response, I still have a lot of homework. Been looking at higher end MH's. Entegra, Phaeton, Charleston, etc. Also checking warranties, millage, towing plus the floor plan. The wife wants more counter space. So it maybe while.
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Old 09-08-2015, 08:46 PM   #30
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I have read in several different forums that the new gen diesel trucks with DEF, DPF etc will not likely make the 300K-700K miles that the pre emissions motors would. I don't know if this applies to the bigger MH diesels or if it even holds true. Since the newer emissions stuff is still fairly recent, it remains to be seen. I'm going to hang on to my antique truck as long as I can. Anyway, I like the smell of old school diesel exhaust.....

Well, no one really knows, do they? I would hazard to guess there are very, very few if ANY motorhome owners that will drive their rig 300,000 to 700,000 miles, so who cares?

Love my DEF quiet, clean, efficient engine.


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Old 09-09-2015, 12:07 AM   #31
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My 2005 ISL ran like a striped ape, never threw a code and never once was I concerned that it would break down or not start.

My 2014 has thrown a couple of codes and has been back to Cummins to resolve the issue in the first 6K. It uses DEF and after reading about issues with the latest smog equipment, I'm not as confident that my coach will perform like my 05 did. I'm now at 17K and haven't had any problems.

Personally, I don't think the new coaches get any better mileage than the old ones. Between more systems and weight, it's about the same.

With all that said.....those who insist on buying something older, can only hold out so long. At some point, they'll have to buy a coach with the current systems.
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Old 09-09-2015, 12:38 AM   #32
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Bought a 2009 Magna, 2,600 miles later it dropped a valve. Top end rebuild, cleaning, new DPF and turbo = $33,000+ Cummins paid $10,400 leaving us with over $22,000 to pay. Found out this was the second time for this repair and the third turbo also. So at 45,000 miles it's cost some $60,000 in repairs! Luckily some was under warranty for the first owner, the last one wasn't fully covered. Turns out Cummins knows of the problem and has issued new design heads and turbo, maybe valves too. But they aren't standing behind the engines already out there the way they should.
Numerous stories out there about the 2007 EPA ISX's having the same problem and it's not just the 650 hp ones. In fact there are two that I know of just on the Cummins Forum here. Plus I know of a third one that a dealer had blow up.
But the engine is quite and very strong now, just hope it stays that way for many 1,000's of miles and the DW's health gets better so we can enjoy it.

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