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Old 05-15-2014, 08:01 PM   #15
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I check wheelbarrow tires for balance before I buy them. Cheaper than having them balanced. Also i buy a full set at a time to ensure they are matched. (-:
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While I might always balance the fronts not sure if doing dual rears is worth the extra cost unless there is a vibration. BUT when buying new tires it is certainly easier and may be less expensive to balance all tires while still off the RV.

Depends on the cost.
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Old 05-16-2014, 06:12 AM   #17
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What is the typical costs to unmount balance etc?
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You definitely need to have them balanced. We put new duals on our 2001 Adventurer when the old ones wore out at about 50,000 miles. They were supposedly balanced with Equal powder. Everything was fine for the first 20,000 miles. Then I began to feel some vibration.

As time went on the vibration got worse and worse. Finally on a trip to Florida I stopped a tire shop. I asked them to dismount all 4 rear tires, remove the Equal, and rebalance them with external weights.

When they started the process they called me into the shop to show me the progress. None of the tires had any balance powder installed in them even though I'd been charged for it when I purchased the tires. The tires were remounted and balanced. The worst tire took over 12 ounces of weight and all the others took about 8 ounces.

Even with the newly balanced tires I could feel vibrations. There were already flat spots caused by not being balance for over 30,000 miles. I eventually replaced the tires again because of the poor ride quality. Tires that should have easily gone 60,000 miles or more had to be replaced with less than 40,000 miles on them because they weren't balanced when thy were new.
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When they started the process they called me into the shop to show me the progress. None of the tires had any balance powder installed in them even though I'd been charged for it when I purchased the tires.
It sounds like you had your tires put on at the same place I did.
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What is the typical costs to unmount balance etc?
Just cost me $120 to do the 4 on the rear axle. They even used a torque wrench without being asked which is a first time for me.
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A while ago I had to replace the tire on my wheel barrow. Went to the local tire dealer who is a friend of our son in law. I had not met him previously so the devil in me thought I will make his day.
When the tire replacement was done and I was paying I asked the young fellow "Do I have to get the tire balanced?" He looked at me and very seriously said "No sir, it will be just fine the way it is." I thanked him and took the tire home.
A couple days later I was talking to my son in law and he told me a story about this old guy that went to his friends tire store and asked if his wheel barrow tire needed to be balanced.
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BTW, I never had a wheelbarrow tire balanced, but a wheel alignment can reduce tire wear.

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At the New cost of tires balancing is a very very small cost. Just do it. I am very happy with the beads for balance and my MH sits for months before on the road again.

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You definitely need to have them balanced. We put new duals on our 2001 Adventurer when the old ones wore out at about 50,000 miles. They were supposedly balanced with Equal powder. Everything was fine for the first 20,000 miles. Then I began to feel some vibration.
As time went on the vibration got worse and worse. Finally on a trip to Florida I stopped a tire shop. I asked them to dismount all 4 rear tires, remove the Equal, and re-balance them with external weights.
When they started the process they called me into the shop to show me the progress. None of the tires had any balance powder installed in them even though I'd been charged for it when I purchased the tires.
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It sounds like you had your tires put on at the same place I did.
IMO, that is a major problem with far to many RV service providers.
If you can't see it, (like balancing beads), and/or if you aren't allowed to watch them do other services, (like routine maintenance), you often pay for things that never actually get done.....(they make more money that way).
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Better to balance them when you install them,just had new Michelins installed and balanced them using the balancing beads cost about $30.00 per tire
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Whatever method you use to balance the tires, it is imperative that you also make sure the rim is centered on the hub. No amount of balancing will make up for an improperly centered rim. On some installations, the hub is designed to accurately center the rim, and not dependent on the type and method of bolt installation. Others are highly dependent on bolt type and installation. Even on some self-centering hubs, you may need to use shims to make sure there is no slop between the hub centering ring and the rim. Any tire / wheel shop worth their salt will make this process transparent to you. The fly-by-nights will more likely screw it up than not. Pick a good tire shop and ask the hard questions.
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good point and over looked
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Do enugh of you use the balancing beads to know if they are effective on an R.V? I use them on my motorcycle and they are fantastic. Just asking?
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Do enugh of you use the balancing beads to know if they are effective on an R.V? I use them on my motorcycle and they are fantastic. Just asking?

I've had them for a year now in my fronts, couldn't be happier. When the time comes they will go in the rears also.


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