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Old 04-27-2013, 06:43 PM   #1
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Do you wax over your 3M front mask?

Just curious, for those of you that have the 3M film on the front of your coach or anything similar, do you wax over this? If so why? Some waxes including Mequires Hydrophobic wax implicitly says do not use on plastic or vinyl and I believe Eagle One says the same. What are you using if anything. I would think it would react with the film over time but I maybe wrong. Thanks
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Yep. Just another reason not to get a coach with that garbage on it. After a while it dulls even without polish and it's too soft to do anything with it to renew the shine. Couple that with the way hard bugs actually stick into the plastic and the fact that you still get rock dings in the paint under the plastic that cannot be fixed and it makes a fine reason to reject the junk. In my opinion, the 3M and others who produce this stuff have a great sales program on a highly inferior product. My 2013 Allegro Bus does not have it on the front.
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Old 04-27-2013, 06:58 PM   #3
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I've put Nufinish on it and also Mothers FX Syn wax. Never have had a problem and the reason is it makes cleaning it much easier.
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Old 04-27-2013, 07:02 PM   #4
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I've used Rejex and 303 Aerospace Protectant. Some here said they waxed it and the white wax stuck in every hole caused buy rocks or sand or...that you couldn't see before the wax.
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Old 04-27-2013, 07:23 PM   #5
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So... What to use on MH a with decals? I had great results with Meguiar's cleaner wax on my 20' enclosed. I used too much 303 on the decals on my truck and they peeled.
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Old 04-27-2013, 07:25 PM   #6
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I have Diamond Shield. I use ProtectAll on it because it has a UV blocker. Seems to do just fine.
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I have Wash-Wax-All with a UV protector, but it doesn't shine like Meguiar's.
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303 on Diamond Shield 20k miles 2 1/2 years and it looks PERFECT......bugs removed every day or the next morning. Wax/Glaze when the coach is done.
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Can the 3-M paint protector clear film be removed. On my 2005 Airstream 396 XL it has cracks and is discolored and looks bad. I would rather have it removed and deal with the dings that come going down the highway. Thanks

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Can the 3-M paint protector clear film be removed. On my 2005 Airstream 396 XL it has cracks and is discolored and looks bad. I would rather have it removed and deal with the dings that come going down the highway. Thanks

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3M actually recommends that you wax your film. I've had great success with mine over the last three years and would certainly put it on my next coach.

From their website: Frequently asked questions about Scotchgard
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How do I remove a scratch or swirl mark from my Scotchgard™ Paint Protection Film?
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You can treat Scotchgard film just as you treat paint. 3M Car Care products, like 3M™ One Step Cleaner Wax or 3M™ Scratch Remover, can be used to remove light scratches.
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How is Scotchgard™ Paint Protection Film maintained?
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Once applied, refrain from washing the vehicle in an automated car wash for 24 hours. Washing after that time presents no problem, and regular waxing helps maintain the beauty of Scotchgard film.


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Can I use wax over Scotchgard™ Paint Protection Film?

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Yes. 3M recommends you wax your vehicle with 3M™ Performance Finish Synthetic Wax (3M Part #39030). If wax or dirt builds up along the Scotchgard film edges, use a 3M™ Microfiber Detail Cloth (3M Part #06016) to remove it. Do not use any waxes containing dyes or waxes that are not recommended for urethanes. Abrasive polishes and/or rubbing compounds are not to be used.


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What products does 3M recommend to best maintain Scotchgard™ Paint Protection Film?

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3M makes a variety of products to help maintain the beauty of your vehicle. View our 3M Car Care Products website. Start with 3M™ Car Wash Soap (3M Part #39000), follow up with 3M™ Performance Finish Synthetic Wax (3M Part #39030) using a 3M™ Microfiber Detail Cloth (3M Part #06016). Other cloths may scratch the surface of the Scotchgard film.


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How can I remove bug acid stains from Scotchgard™ Paint Protection Film?

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First, try this immediately – wash with soap and warm water. If that doesn’t remove it completely, use rubbing alcohol on the stain. After this, let the vehicle sit in the sun to help bleach the stains. This may take a few days and you should not wax Scotchgard film until the stains are gone.
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Mine is at the point of being past the maintaining point and is at the point of removing. There are steps, not very detailed, on removing the product at the same 3-M site and I am going to try and contact 3M about locating local installers that may be able to remove the product.

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diamond shield on my last two mh ..applied 303 once a month and it looked like the day it was installed..

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Just curious, for those of you that have the 3M film on the front of your coach or anything similar, do you wax over this? If so why? Some waxes including Mequires Hydrophobic wax implicitly says do not use on plastic or vinyl and I believe Eagle One says the same. What are you using if anything. I would think it would react with the film over time but I maybe wrong. Thanks
The manufacturer does recommend coating it with wax and 303 Protectant. But as other's have posted, the rock nicks will show the wax.

So try the 303 Protectant first. 3M and Diamondshield do recommend it.

If you don't use some sort of coating on it, it will dull in time.
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So try the 303 Protectant first. 3M and Diamondshield do recommend it.
Mine is the 3M Scottsguard paint protector product used by Airstream during 2000 through 2006. Everyone that I have seen including 4 or 5 in my local unit have deteriorated and show cracks on the underside of the product. I am not sure if there was a flaw in the product during this time or if proper care instructions were not provided or not followed. So the task at hand for me now is to remove it, and clean the adhesive off with the recommended 3M chemical without harming the paint. They won't merely peel off since it has been on there for so long, they break into tiny pieces. Applying heat like with a steamer or hire dryer is supposed to loosen the adhesive so it can be removed. My 2005 coach was already in this condition when I bought it a few months ago so its to late for the 303 Protestant. So any suggestions on removing it would be appreciated, Thanks.

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