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02-03-2011, 08:04 PM
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DP weight cap???
we are shopping for a new DP. thought we had it figured out but..... we want a 40' DP. but the carry cap seems to only run around 3000#. our current 36' gasser has a cap of 4700. are most of the 40 foot DP's that short on cap? after 750# of water, 400# for people, then clothing, food, tools, and stuff... makes me think we would be traveling at peak weight cap ALL the time... not sure I like that... would like to stay at 40' with single axle, anyone with a 40' DP have a better cap? we've looked at Winnebago and Tiffin, they were on our short list, but looks like we need to scratch that list and start another one.
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02-03-2011, 08:25 PM
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my damon has just over 4k
plus 880 for water and 600 ish for peoples
i rarely carry 30 gallons
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02-03-2011, 08:35 PM
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My 2005 Dutch Star / Spartan chassis is 40' 7" long and has two slides and a single rear axle. It has a CCC of over 5200 pounds according to the sticker. It is loaded for fulltiming and with full fresh water, 150 gallons diesel and full LP, we still are under capacity by 1200 pounds on the front axle and 800 pounds on the rear axle. I weigh it by wheel position at least once a year.
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02-04-2011, 04:49 AM
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MY '07 40' Dutch Star has a CCC of over #4800.
The CCC already allows for fuel, water and 2 people.
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02-05-2011, 09:55 AM
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Our 40' has a rated net CC of over 9,000 lb. Of course we have a tag axle.
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02-05-2011, 12:00 PM
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Newmar Owners Club
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Hi lp5151,
Different manufacturers make their coaches with different chassis configurations. Some are very short on NCC. Consider checking out Newmar coaches. I think you'll find the NCC to be quite generous. On my coach the NCC is 6531 from the factory. Newmar is very sensitive to NCC and orders their chassis's accordingly. The chassis may carry the generic name from the manufacturer, but they are specially made for Newmar.
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02-05-2011, 12:26 PM
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I don't think you are looking at the CFCs and ncccs correctly. On the winnies they subtract out the passengers, full fuel, full fresh water, full propane tank. Others don't subtract these items out so it appears they have greater capacity. Look closely at what is included when comparing carrying capacity between brands.
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02-05-2011, 12:30 PM
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Newmar Owners Club
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Hi gmanatl,
The definitions of the various chassis weight ratings have been an industry standard for several years. Newmar follows the standard definition.
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02-05-2011, 03:39 PM
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Actually, the standard definition of carrying capacity recently changed again, in June, 2008, from CCC to something called OCCC. OCCC is generally larger than CCC for the same coach, because it does not include the SCWR (passenger weight allowance).
OCCC is computed as follows: OCCC = GVWR - (UVW + Propane)
The CCC standard was in effect from 9/2000 thru 6/2008.
Older coaches used a number called NCC, which is also larger than CCC would be for the same coach. NCC = GVWR-UVW, so has no allowance for passengers, water or propane. Coaches built between 9/1996 and 8/2000 used NCC as their measure of capacity.
So, make sure you are comparing apples to apples when looking at carrying capacity.
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