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Old 02-28-2012, 11:10 PM   #29
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Old 02-28-2012, 11:30 PM   #30
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Just remember folks, if you do get a Class A CDL you have to pass a CDL Physical every two years or your license is revoked or suspended.
Not true. You only need a current medical to exercise the Commercial aspect of the CDL. If you have a CDL, but are not driving commercially (for pay, or a commercial registered vehicle), you do not need a current medical.

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Old 02-29-2012, 07:45 AM   #31
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IMHO adding an endorsement on any Driver's license to cover motorhomes would be the simple solution. Much like a the endorsement to drive a motorcycle or in my case as I have a Class A CDL and have several endorsements to cover driving a Tanker, Hazmat material, and Doubles/Triple trailers.
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Old 02-29-2012, 08:07 AM   #32
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Not true. You only need a current medical to exercise the Commercial aspect of the CDL. If you have a CDL, but are not driving commercially (for pay, or a commercial registered vehicle), you do not need a current medical.

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Better read the new rules boys
And depending on any med circumstances you may need to pass a physical every yr
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Better read the new rules boys
And depending on any med circumstances you may need to pass a physical every yr
Got a reference to these "new" rules?

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Old 02-29-2012, 08:35 AM   #34
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IMHO adding an endorsement on any Driver's license to cover motorhomes would be the simple solution. Much like a the endorsement to drive a motorcycle or in my case as I have a Class A CDL and have several endorsements to cover driving a Tanker, Hazmat material, and Doubles/Triple trailers.
I don't know that a specific RV or Motorhome endorsement makes sense. It's a "large vehicle", and that's what the Class A or B license is for exactly. Unless you're talking about something for an RV smaller than the 26,000lb Class B limit?

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The misunderstanding on this issue is: YOU DO NOT NEED A CDL! What you need to ask for when going to DPS is that you want a "non-commercial Class A or B license. If you look at your current TX license (if not CDL) it says you have a Class C license. You want to upgrade to Class B or A depending if you are going to tow under/over 10,000 lbs. Your drivers license number from your Class C license to the new Class A/B will remain the same.
As someone said: the lawyers will know the law if you are involved in an accident your fault or not. If not properly licensed, it will be your fault regardless if Pedro is here legally or not or has insurance.
As the state trooper told me: we will issue a citation at the scene of the accident to anyone not properly licensed to operate the vehicle involved in the accident. Go to the DPS office and tell them you want the manual for a commercial license and then study those chapters that pertain to the Class B/A. I believe this is either chapter 14 or 15 but would reccommend the air brake section as well as Chapter 2.
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Got a reference to these "new" rules?

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The Feds are requiring states to keep a copy of not only your med certificate but also a copy of the rdtc you belong to and your state file must be updated every yr. this is just starting this yr.
Got my notice in nov.
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A commerical CDL is regulated by the Feds and you will be required to pass a physical or lose your license. Had mine suspended twice for being late sending in forms.
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The misunderstanding on this issue is: YOU DO NOT NEED A CDL! What you need to ask for when going to DPS is that you want a "non-commercial Class A or B license. If you look at your current TX license (if not CDL) it says you have a Class C license. You want to upgrade to Class B or A depending if you are going to tow under/over 10,000 lbs. Your drivers license number from your Class C license to the new Class A/B will remain the same.
As someone said: the lawyers will know the law if you are involved in an accident your fault or not. If not properly licensed, it will be your fault regardless if Pedro is here legally or not or has insurance.
As the state trooper told me: we will issue a citation at the scene of the accident to anyone not properly licensed to operate the vehicle involved in the accident. Go to the DPS office and tell them you want the manual for a commercial license and then study those chapters that pertain to the Class B/A. I believe this is either chapter 14 or 15 but would reccommend the air brake section as well as well as Chapter 2.
I agree with dls461 and claiming ignorance of the law will not hold up in court. I drove for a year without it, but got mine about a month ago. I did not have to take the Air Brake test.
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The Feds are requiring states to keep a copy of not only your med certificate but also a copy of the rdtc you belong to and your state file must be updated every yr. this is just starting this yr.
Got my notice in nov.
Still no reference here. What's an rdtc?

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I was so disgusted with it I threw it in the fire with the fed statute on it but you can look it up on the Feds web site, sorry I can't give it to you.
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A commerical CDL is regulated by the Feds and you will be required to pass a physical or lose your license. Had mine suspended twice for being late sending in forms.
Were you operating commercially or driving a commercial registered vehicle?

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I was so disgusted with it I threw it in the fire with the fed statute on it but you can look it up on the Feds web site, sorry I can't give it to you.
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I just spent a few minutes browsing through Driver application procedures. - Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration and related pages. I'm still not sure I agree that this applies to someone who has a CDL, but doesn't operate commercially. In fact, I see this section:

(2) Existing CLP and CDL holders. By January 30, 2014, provide the State with an original or copy (as required by the State) of a current medical examiner's certificate prepared by a medical examiner, as defined in 49 CFR 390.5, and the State will post a certification status of “certified” on CDLIS driver record for the driver. If the non-excepted, interstate CLP or CDL holder fails to provide the State with a current medical examiner's certificate, the State will post a certification status of “not-certified” in the CDLIS driver record for the driver, and initiate a CLP or CDL downgrade following State procedures in accordance with section 383.73(j)(4); and
(3) Maintaining the medical certification status of “certified.” In order to maintain a medical certification status of “certified,” after January 30, 2012, a CLP or CDL holder who certifies that he/she will operate CMVs in non-excepted, interstate commerce must provide the State with an original or copy (as required by the State) of each subsequently issued medical examiner's certificate.


Which means my CDL would be "downgraded", which leads to:

(4) Downgrade. (i) Beginning January 30, 2012, if a driver's medical certification or medical variance expires, or FMCSA notifies the State that a medical variance was removed or rescinded, the State must:
(A) Notify the CLP or CDL holder of his/her CLP or CDL “not-certified” medical certification status and that the CMV privileges will be removed from the CLP or CDL unless the driver submits a current medical certificate and/or medical variance, or changes his/her self-certification to driving only in excepted or intrastate commerce (if permitted by the State);
(B) Initiate established State procedures for downgrading the CLP or CDL. The CLP or CDL downgrade must be completed and recorded within 60 days of the driver's medical certification status becoming “not-certified” to operate a CMV.
(ii) Beginning January 30, 2014, if a driver fails to provide the State with the certification contained in §383.71(b)(1)(ii), or a current medical examiner's certificate if the driver self-certifies according to §383.71(b)(1)(ii)(A) that he/she is operating in non-excepted interstate commerce as required by §383.71(h), the State must mark that CDLIS driver record as “not-certified” and initiate a CLP or CDL downgrade following State procedures in accordance with paragraph (o)(4)(i)(B) of this section.
(5) FMCSA Medical Programs is designated as the keeper of the list of State contacts for receiving medical variance information from FMCSA. Beginning January 30, 2012, States are responsible for insuring their medical variance contact information is always up-to-date with FMCSA's Medical Programs.


Which means I can't drive commercially any more. D'oh. Doesn't mean I'm illegal to drive my RV, since I don't need a commercial license to do so. My class B is still good at that point.

However, this is where you get into the murkiness of "who actually knows the law", and the (lack of) value of having the CDL in the first place if you don't actually plan on using it.

I'm planning on reverting to a non-CDL Class-B when my license comes up for renewal next year anyway.

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