Experience with the New Style Windows?

[SpaceNorman]

It was a rainy day in Tampa today - so a trip to the beach was out of the question. Instead, my DW and I took a ride over to LazyDays ... just to do a little window shopping and check out some newer coaches.

Virtually all the coaches we looked at had the new style "tilt out" windows (versus the old style "sliders" that we in our current coach). My DW took an instant dislike to the "tilt out" windows - convinced that they don't provide as much ventilation as the old style "sliders". Having zero experience with the new style windows - I'm trying to keep an open mind.

For those of you who've had experience with both ... what's your take on the new(er)"tilt out" windows? Is the amount of ventilation they provide noticeably reduced for the old style "sliders"? Are there other positives about the new(er) "tilt out" windows that I'm overlooking?

[theroc]

A few of the advantages of frameless windows in RVs that I keep hearing about is 1) of course, the more streamlined look from the exterior because of being flush with the body, 2) more leak-resistant than the old style with exposed frames, 3) much quieter when moving as there is no drip channel, and 4) less wind resistance because of the previous factors.

[twogypsies]

We had one in the bedroom and the rest were sliders. Yes, you can get a lot more air with the sliders.

A couple good things with the push out in the bedroom was that we could leave the window open, if raining. The sliders you can't do that. Also, at night we could lower the blind to the top of the push out window and enjoy the night air with minimal light shining through. With the sliders if you lower the blind you wouldn't get any air.

[chuckftboy]

I had sliders and now have frameless. The sliders do allow more air flow but I always worried about rain when we were away from the coach or asleep with windows open. I do prefer the look and dark tint of the frameless windows, makes for better privacy when the shades are up.

[lnanne]

Our coach has both and I had the same concern about the frameless. I now prefer the frameless because of being able to keep them open in the rain and being able to draw the shade down further and not block the air and they are easier to open and close. BUT they don't work well for ventilation unless you turn on one of the overhead fans that draw air out of the coach and then they work GREAT for bringing in fresh air. I do enjoy the big sliders in the front of our class A (driver and passenger) so it's nice to have both.

[ctpres]

Have frameless now and sliders on previous. Given choice between two identical rigs - would take one with sliders. MUCH more air flow. We are using A'cond a lot more now with the frameless. Any broadside wind is deflected. Most Pros mentioned above are real BUT if you want air flow without fans to boost movement - stick with sliders. Problem is if you want a newer rig you get frameless. Very few come with sliders anymore. I have seriously been considering adding a third ceiling vent to help move more air.

[JMonroe]

My only issue with the "new" frameless windows is the big bar that provides the hinge point for the lower portion. It blocks vision.

[DeWat]

Being a retired police officer, I think I would enjoy the tilt out windows more (no experience with them yet). I think about things from a security standpoint, and wouldn't have as much trouble taking a nap at rest/truck stops since I don't think I would have to worry about what would look like an "open" invitation.

[lnanne]

Originally Posted by JMonroe

My only issue with the "new" frameless windows is the big bar that provides the hinge point for the lower portion. It blocks vision.

Excellent point. Need to add that to my list on the negative side!

[MisterT]

I like the sliders better(we have them on our driver and passenger windows)...especially while driving in good weather - I'm an 'open window' kind o' guy....

but,
I also like the ability to LEAVE the windows open during rain, with our roll out windows everywhere else in the coach... though they only open slightly compared to sliders.

it's one or the other, not much in between....

[computerguy]

Agreed the sliders let more air flow along with the other comments above.
One thing I note and wish were different, although I have "double pane" frameless they are sandwiched together. My previous sliders were also double pane. I think those were more energy efficient because of the air space in between. That's not a scientific observation just my perception.
Overall I do like the frameless better.

[George Schweikle]

Granted that the tilt out windows have a smoother look, and may be used in rain (albeit with a loss in ventilation efficiency), but I suggest the "positive" is to the RV manufacturer since I believe these are actually a cost reduction to manufacture; cleverly marketed to the public as an "upgrade" .

Originally Posted by SpaceNorman

.... Are there other positives about the new(er) "tilt out" windows that I'm overlooking?

[Highway 4x4]

And Lippert owns the company. I actually like mine more than I thought I would.