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Old 08-03-2013, 05:40 PM   #1
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I am new to this forum and as soon as I started to read I had to join. My wife and I are retired and have dreamed of being on the road for a few years before we are placed in an old folks home.
We have been looking at 40ft-45ft diesel pushers. We have found the Winnebago Tour meets about 90% of our needs and that is all we could ask for in a MH.
My question is about most of the floor plans we have seen. Why is the main TV not part of the LR? Most plans we have seen have the TV on the other side of the coach, where you have the dinette between the LR and the TV.
One of the reasons the Tour GD floor plan works best for us is that my wife has medical issues that require her to be able to get out of bed easily and into the bathroom. In the Tour GD the Jack and Jill bathroom gives her easy and quick access. In many MH there is such a small space between the bed and wall it can be hard to negotiate. If anyone has seen other coaches that have easy access to the bathroom from the bed and has the TV as part of the LR, we are open to suggestions.
Thanks for reading this novel, it's my first post and had a lot to ask.
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Old 08-03-2013, 06:20 PM   #2
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In general Diesel pushers seem appeal up front. However there is a lot of unseen problems as well as safety hazards with diesel motors. That's why I chose a motorhome with a good old Chevy 454. I discovered a lot of RV dealers and service center don't want to mess with diesel motors, even small things like oil changes. I guess they harder and more expensive to service.

I have done a lot of work on automobiles myself. I've also have over 25,000 miles of traveling under my belt. My suggestion stick with a motorhome that has a good old GM gas motor and you won't be sorry.
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Old 08-03-2013, 06:25 PM   #3
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"Unseen problems and safety issues with diesel pushers"?? Please explain. It sounds like this may get interesting quickly!
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Seems someone has a bad case of diesel envy.
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Old 08-03-2013, 06:31 PM   #5
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If anyone has seen other coaches that have easy access to the bathroom from the bed and has the TV as part of the LR, we are open to suggestions.
I don't have a answer for your question, but don't give up. There are many floor plans out there.

It seems like the newest RV's are trying too hard to meet everyone's needs, which makes the floors plans seem out of touch for some of us... That is the best answer I can think of, as to why they are the way they are...... Except that some of the older floor plans were designed for comfort, the new ones seem to be designed for cutting manufacturing cost....

Maybe you should look at some that have a few years on them. You may find a floor plan that better fits your needs. Then you can do some upgrades to better meet your specific desires and have the money to do it....
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In general Diesel pushers seem appeal up front. However there is a lot of unseen problems as well as safety hazards with diesel motors. That's why I chose a motorhome with a good old Chevy 454. I discovered a lot of RV dealers and service center don't want to mess with diesel motors, even small things like oil changes. I guess they harder and more expensive to service.

I have done a lot of work on automobiles myself. I've also have over 25,000 miles of traveling under my belt. My suggestion stick with a motorhome that has a good old GM gas motor and you won't be sorry.
............................. . I wonder if a 454 would go in where my 350 Cummins is mounted?

To the OP ,keep looking and you will for sure find something that will suit your and your wife's needs. There are a ton of great Coachs out there with a ton of floor plans.
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Hi cedarman2,
Welcome to iRV2. Because of your special needs, consider attending an RV show. The largest show is in the middle of January in Tampa, Florida. Go to Florida RV Trade Association - Florida RV SuperShow and read about it. All the coach manufacturers are there.

At a large RV show you can actually look at many coach floor plans and walk through them determining if they meet your needs. TVs in the living area are located in many different locations in the coach. It depends on the manufacturer. Consider going to Luxury Motorhomes, RVs, and More | Newmar and looking at the different floor plans. I think you'll be impressed and have several choices that meet your needs.
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We love our floor plan, rear bedroom and TV, 4 slides 2 in bedroom and 2 in living and kitchen area, central bath and shower, washer/dryer and large living area and TV. "SLEEPS 2" 41 Ft. of privacy. Seat belts for driver and copilot.

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You might check out the Tiffin 42LH. This is similar to the Tour as far a cost, fit, finish, and amenities. I believe one of the Tour models is very similar to the 42LH.
With the queen bed there is sufficient room around the bed, wit a king it is pretty tight. The full bath is right there next to the bed ( there is a small step up though). The 1/2 bath is very small but usable. The living room is forward of the gally and dinng table. The captains chairs trun around to become part of the living room. The TV is across from the couch. With the "L" shaped couch, the recliner, and the captains chairs, the living room feels more like a S&B house, just smaller.
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In general Diesel pushers seem appeal up front. However there is a lot of unseen problems as well as safety hazards with diesel motors. That's why I chose a motorhome with a good old Chevy 454. I discovered a lot of RV dealers and service center don't want to mess with diesel motors, even small things like oil changes. I guess they harder and more expensive to service.

I have done a lot of work on automobiles myself. I've also have over 25,000 miles of traveling under my belt. My suggestion stick with a motorhome that has a good old GM gas motor and you won't be sorry.
Yep, had a terrible time getting my unit serviced this week on the way back from Virginia to S. Florida.

Let me re-cap the difficulties:

Rolled into Speedco in Brunswick, GA at 1:45 pm on Tuesday. Had the following done:

Genny service with Oil, Filter and Fuel Filter

Chassis Lube

Oil and Filter Change

2 Fuel filters changed

Coolant check (freezepoint and SCA's)

New coolant filter

Front oil bathed bearings serviced

Rear differential checked

Oil Analysis

Tire Inspection

Out the door with tax- $305

Oh, and it took an hour.


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That is very reasonable and FAST! I may have to start looking at finding a Speedko near me!

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I discovered a lot of RV dealers and service center don't want to mess with diesel motors, even small things like oil changes. I guess they harder and more expensive to service.
We like to have our DP serviced by CAT dealers and we've not had any problems getting them to work on it. Furthermore, the cost of having it done at the dealer is not significantly higher than I have experienced at independent shops and they are better equipped to download the ECM data and fault codes (if any).

IMHO anyone taking a DP to an RV dealer for routine engine service is foolish; I doubt many top-rate diesel technicians stay at RV dealers when they can earn a lot more at truck centers.

Our experience at truck centers around the country has also been quite good when we needed chassis work done. As long as you don't act arrogant and expect that people will stop whatever they are doing just because you rolled in, we have found most places to be quite willing to assist.
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Thanks everyone, I just knew there would be many helpful posts from the people on here.
From what I gather there are two camps diesels vs. gassers. We have looked for some time and I think I will join the diesel camp/
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Some of the best bargains in used motorhomes are those where the owners did not do their home work. Bought too small, bought too big, bought floor plan that did not work and primarily a lifestyle that made one partner,or both, unhappy. Your investment is very substatial so I can assume financially you are okay as this lifestyle can be quite expensive.

The arguement about diesel/gas is as old as Ford/Chevy, John Deere/ Farmall, Clydesdale/Percheron, I have had both and each has plusses and minuses, so my advice look at a lot of rigs don't get blinded by the glitz, sit in each, make sure your favorite dish fits into the micro, walk around, sit some more and believe half of what the dealer says and none of what the salesman says, keep your hands on your wallet and if you buy expect problems. If you have an RVing friends take them along with orders to be honest and/or brutal with your choice. Above all don't invest your life savings and house equity into a depreciating product unless you are positive.

When all works out it is a great and I mean great lifestyle.

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