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Old 02-17-2013, 10:51 AM   #1
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Question F53 gvwr 1994????

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yesterday i weight my Santara 35' 94 with half a thank of gas, all 3 tank empty, 1/3 of propane, basement empty, minimum in coke ware and 2 persons on board = 15652lbs. The GVWR in the Santara is 17 000lbs so 1348lbs free.......but we plan a trip in NC at the end of the month with 6 adults plus 1 motorcycle(650lbs) on the back bumper and a trailer(electric brake) with 3 other motorcycle in it(2800lbs with trailer)......i know...wow 6 party animals Today i check the rating on the tires type E so 17196lbs total limit = overweight??? My question is the GVWR of the Santara(17 000lbs) is related to the tires rating(17196lbs) or is just a coincidence??? I saw on google that the Ford F53 1994 is rated 25 000lbs???? is this realistic???

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That frame will have extensions added to it to take the 35' home.
Not advisable to hang a 650lb bike off the back of it.
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You are correct, tires are generally the limiting factor of the weight capacity. As for the chassis being rated at 25,000 lbs, I have no idea. I have a 22,000 lb chassis but I also have the larger 22.5 wheels.
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I don't know where you saw an 1994 F53 would be rated for 25,000 lbs, but it ain't so. Back then, RV manufacturers were adding tag axles to get up over the 17,000, which is the biggest F53 Ford made. The tires probaly add up to a bit over 17k because that's all they needed to have for the chassis, and no RV builder ever puts on more tires than absolutely necessary.

I had a 96 F53 with a tag and it still rated out at just 20,000 lbs GVWR. GCWR was 23,500.
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So i'm gonna be overweight +-1000lbs.... the best thing is to change the tires for a "G" rated tires for more safety.... i know i'm taking safety and i'm gonna be overweight.... and Gary were i can find the GCWR for my Santara??
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yesterday i weight my Santara 35' 94 with half a thank of gas, all 3 tank empty, 1/3 of propane, basement empty, minimum in coke ware and 2 persons on board = 15652lbs. The GVWR in the Santara is 17 000lbs so 1348lbs free.......but we plan a trip in NC at the end of the month with 6 adults plus 1 motorcycle(650lbs) on the back bumper and a trailer(electric brake) with 3 other motorcycle in it(2800lbs with trailer)......i know...wow 6 party animals Today i check the rating on the tires type E so 17196lbs total limit = overweight??? My question is the GVWR of the Santara(17 000lbs) is related to the tires rating(17196lbs) or is just a coincidence??? I saw on google that the Ford F53 1994 is rated 25 000lbs???? is this realistic???
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Winnebago used the F53 chassis on their 1994 Chieftan and Adventurer models. Both have the same 17,000 lb. gvwr of your Santara
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If your Santara has a single rear axle (no Tag Axle) then the total capacity is 17,000. I have a '95 Santara 36' with slide and tag axle. Total capacity is 18,500, BUT with the slide, tag and extra foot, I am at a camping weight of 18,400.
Going to higher capacity tires is not the answer as the axles are also a limiting factor as are the wheels. Only way you're going to pull this off is ALL the extra gear goes in a trailer (with good brakes) and your max for that should be 3500 lbs. Hanging a 650 lb scoot on the rear is simply a not do-able. I wouldn't dare hang more than a moped on the back of mine.
Have a great trip and lotsa fun, but be smart. You and your friends gotta get there and back in one piece.
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Well no good news for me :( if my thinking is correct you buy a motorhome (in 1994) with a GVWR of 17000lbs and you go home fill the propane, freshwater, gaz and BOOM your motorhome is overweight......all the basement is empty, you are not in it??????? Is it just me or something is not right???? Mine is 15650lbs no water, 1/3 propane, half a tank of gaz, basement empty...no no fill with air!! 4 plates, 4 forks, 2 sauce pan, 1 roll of toilet paper, fridg empty, no 0 t-shirt, 0 jeans, 0 toothbrush....nada personal effect.... ouff sorry just letting go some steam!!! What's Coachmen was thinking????
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Yeah, thats a pretty light frame for a 35' coach .
My 36' Dolphin came with a tag axle, which brings the GVWR to 20,500lbs.
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I made a test on the hitch with the rack, a 450lbs bike + the trailer with 3 bikes in..........and..........like 96 Wideglide and Nick-B mention it's impossible. i hook up the bike and the trailer......looking good so i step on the pole just for testing.......and Cric Bang..paf.....the hitch explode :( We laugh....better laugh than cry. So the moral of the story.... better safe than sorry!!!!



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