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Old 12-04-2010, 12:32 AM   #1
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few fresh water questions...

1. how do i increse my pressure when using my FWT? i have a ShurFlo pump at 40psi but it just trickles out of the faucet and doesn't flush the toilet properly...

2. is it possible to put 2 pumps in to increse my pressure? i wouldn't run them in series but run them to a T in the line... is that possible?

3. being out here on the farm in cold months, i don't stay hooked up to "city water" at the hydrant so i just fill my fresh water tank for daily use and use dad's house to shower in. Since its ground water, it's hard water and i think that is one reason my pump aint pushin as well, i think it's junked up with hard water, so is it possible to put a filter between my FWT and my pump inlet? i don't filter it before going into the tank cause there is nothing wrong with "potability" so could i filter it before the pump and still be ok? or would that damage the pump trying to "pull" water through the filter?

4. how the heck do ya'll use your showers running off of the pump? unless this pump has just always been going dead or something, i've never seen it pump enough pressure to make a shower... lol

5. do you leave your pump on ALL THE TIME when using you FWT or do you shut it off after each use? i shut mine off after every use but was just wondering if that is harder on the pump or not...


Thanks in advance again everyone!
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1. how do i increse my pressure when using my FWT? i have a ShurFlo pump at 40psi but it just trickles out of the faucet and doesn't flush the toilet properly...

2. is it possible to put 2 pumps in to increse my pressure? i wouldn't run them in series but run them to a T in the line... is that possible?

3. being out here on the farm in cold months, i don't stay hooked up to "city water" at the hydrant so i just fill my fresh water tank for daily use and use dad's house to shower in. Since its ground water, it's hard water and i think that is one reason my pump aint pushin as well, i think it's junked up with hard water, so is it possible to put a filter between my FWT and my pump inlet? i don't filter it before going into the tank cause there is nothing wrong with "potability" so could i filter it before the pump and still be ok? or would that damage the pump trying to "pull" water through the filter?

4. how the heck do ya'll use your showers running off of the pump? unless this pump has just always been going dead or something, i've never seen it pump enough pressure to make a shower... lol

5. do you leave your pump on ALL THE TIME when using you FWT or do you shut it off after each use? i shut mine off after every use but was just wondering if that is harder on the pump or not...


Thanks in advance again everyone!
One possibility is that you have the tank valve set in the wrong position.

Most units have a valve that is set to either Tank Fill or City Water. That labeling is a little confusing, since the "City Water" setting should be used when you are hooked up to an external source OR when you are NOT hooked up and the pump is being used.

The valve will be somewhere close to the fill tube, probably in a bay.
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Old 12-04-2010, 07:09 AM   #3
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In addition to what Ken said about the fill valve being in the wrong position, the problem could be with the exterior shower if you have one. Most shower heads used outside have a shutoff right on the shower head itself. If that is shut off and the water valves are open, water will circulate through the shower head instead of through the rest of the water system.

Since you mention using well water, hard water deposits could indeed cause problems. You may have a hard water buildup in your faucet aerators and shower head. Try taking off the aerators to see is there is any calcium buildup or chunks in them. Clean them out or replace them. Same thing with the shower head. If any of the holes look like they are closed up, try soaking in white vinegar for a while.

As far as a filter is concerned, it will take out chunks and sediment, but not dissolved calcium and magnesium that come from hard water. That would require a water softener. If you use a filter, I would filter the water before it goes into the tank to keep sediment out of the tank. If you put a filter in line with the pump, put it after the pump.
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Old 12-04-2010, 07:26 AM   #4
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thanks paz, i'll look into the sediment build up and that shower part, i do have an outside shower that i use to clean my port. tank off when i'm done.... i'll look at these today!

ken, the hookup you are talking about is just something i can dream about! lol i have a city water hook up next to my refer door vent, and then i have my fresh water tank fill behind a cubby door at the back of the rv directly above the gas tank filler.... no valve to worry about there. HOWEVER! LOL that is in my plans over the summer to change that!

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My Shurflow pump has a factory installed plastic water filter/strainer attached to the input side of the pump. I found this strainer to be filled with all kinds of stuff including plastic shavings from when they cut the holes in the FWT during construction. If you have this strainer you should check it. My strainer can be taken apart and cleaned real easily. If you look closely on the side of the pump where this strainer goes in you will see a slide lock. Just slide this lock and you can pull the strainer out of the pump. It is not threaded in. Once you have it out the large end twists and it will come apart and can be cleaned. Made all the difference in the world to my flow. Your pump input strainer may be a little different but most pumps have one so you should check.
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Old 12-04-2010, 11:40 AM   #6
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From what you said it appears you have a problem with your Fresh Water Storage and delivery system.. Possible issues are (This is based upon my rig)

Water tank outlet.. I have a plastic outlet strainer in the tank.. It can get clogged epically if you have had an algae problem in the tank.

2: Leak,, On the inlet side of the pump, this will cause the pump to "Suck Air" when the water level in the tank is lower than the pump, and leak water if it's higher.. This lowers the effective pressure in the lines.. NOTE: Never had that problem in my RV, Have had it in other things though.

3: Clogged inlet strainer on the pump itself.. See 1.

4; Pinched hose, either on the inlet or outlet side of the pump.

5; Defective pump.

NOTE: if it's item 5 putting in a 2nd pump will help.. But then you really need to replace the pump first.

NOTE too, the "pinched/clogg" can be inside the pujmp itself if it's sucked something past the strainers.
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40 psi is adequate pressure - your problem is water flow (volume). As others have suggested, something is clogged and needs to be cleaned out.

Two pumps won't increase pressure (they have pressure cut-off switches internally) and probably won't increase flow either, since they are constrained by the size of the inlet from the FWT.
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I took out the "water saving" device in my shower head, and all is ok now.
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I agree others who say you have a clog, and I would begin with the strainer/filter on the intake side of the pump. IMHO it is the easiest and most likely fix. Best of luck with it
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nope, no strainer... should be! lol but there isn't! i really think the pump is finally going. it appears to be the original from 93 and this thing was mostly used at race tracks with now city water hookups so the pump got a good use!

I'm looking for a bit bigger one, like 5-6gpm at the same amps... and not paying an arm for it... i already give up my leg to fill the fuel tank! lol
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One possibility is that you have the tank valve set in the wrong position.

Most units have a valve that is set to either Tank Fill or City Water. That labeling is a little confusing, since the "City Water" setting should be used when you are hooked up to an external source OR when you are NOT hooked up and the pump is being used.

The valve will be somewhere close to the fill tube, probably in a bay.
Thanks for posting that. I never knew this, and always turned the valve to 'tank fill', whenever I unhooked !
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well good, my thread answered more than just my questions... well sorta.. lol
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Wideglide -- Absent any strainer on the inlet side of your waterpump, you might consider putting a strainer at the "main" intake where you hook-up your freshwater line, if there isn't one already present. Might help a little in the long run
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Wideglide -- Absent any strainer on the inlet side of your waterpump, you might consider putting a strainer at the "main" intake where you hook-up your freshwater line, if there isn't one already present. Might help a little in the long run
I can't put one there either, mine is just a gravity so i have to shove the hose into the filler hose so a screen wouldn't work for that either.

new pump will come about april along with a strainer pre pump, i'm also redoing a lot of water line plumbing to fill the FWT and Clean the Black Tank so a filter will get installed to the city water line as well....
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