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Old 07-06-2014, 08:14 PM   #29
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Old 07-06-2014, 08:19 PM   #30
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Old 07-06-2014, 08:53 PM   #31
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...Please don't tell me to read the manual they are useless, I don't have the time Or want the read 1,000 pages about chassis...

And two years from now you'll be posting about how bad your engine runs. No power, rough running, etc. all because you never changed the fuel filters. Yeah...it's in the manual.

I will NEVER understand how anyone could make a substantial 6-figure purchase of a brand-new motor home and then not take the time to READ and STUDY the manuals...ALL of them.

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Old 07-07-2014, 12:25 AM   #32
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alwayson, do not worry about not understanding something in a manual the first time that you look at it. I had been turning wrenches for over 45 years and I still need to read something a few times before it sinks in! There can and is a lot of good information posted here, but one just needs to weed through all of the chaff!
Do hang around and keep us posted on what you learn about your MH. It might help some of us with 'possible' issues that we might have. I know that I have picked up a lot of good information on how to correct problems that I run into.
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So nice to hear from you , I would love to do that but I live in out in the boonies , My family member has grave breathing problems, where they have to be aspartate every few hours so they don't choke to death . That has to be done day and night . I have no help ( some one does come in for 2 hours once a month so I can go bring in food ) and that is why the motor home I thought they would enjoy a little bit of life what is left that is . When I said I didn't have time I did look .I didn't appreciate they haven't walked a day in my shoes. You never get enough sleep day night can be very exhausting , but that is life and I feel I shouldn't have to put my personal business out here to get a answer . I did block them so I won't have to deal with that type of person again . Thank you again for you suggestion. I will look in to the handy dandy book you talk about . I do keep all the books that came with in the rig , and it is parked off site ,so its not like I can run down there and get it and leave my loved alone .
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Old 07-07-2014, 01:02 AM   #34
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I really don't appreciate the unkind response from Taveler 52 and macanrtic Rich-n-Linda if You can't say something that will help keep your unwelcome thoughts to your self Try walking in my shoes before you judge
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I feel for your situation , however when someone posts ( please reread your original post ) the manner in which you did ,with no background , which sounds like "just give me the answer and I don't care about any of the rest". Can you understand how that makes those wanting to direct you to the correct source may feel ? I'm sorry to say You came across arrogant and demanding ( without us having any background )
You have received a few good general answers ! If your not really driving it far one year is a good time! contrary to what you might think the engine size and coach can make a difference in maint schedules and brand new vs sitting on a lot unused for a year etc.all can matter. the manuals are large and difficult I agree , but you have purchased a complicated Machine. Most of us want the machine to last a good long time for you but Honestly if you only intend to use it for a year or two ( I'm assuming here) it really doesn't matter. Hopefully when the time comes you can enjoy it yourself for many years
While it's defiantly none of my business Whatever you are going through I hope you can find peace and some rest for yourself at some point. Frustration and Bitterness is unfortunately transparent I'll keep that in my prayers

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Now I'm confused .. I looked up your prior posts and see you are traveling a bit with 18? Dogs to shows .. !!! That is a handful! No doubt But you asked the same question last month it seems ? And got several good answers guess I don't understand why you asked again and in a different manner but ...
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Can some one please tell me how many miles before the first oil change on a new Fleetwood Excursion motorhome ? and Please don't tell me to read the manual they are useless, I don't have the time Or want the read 1,000 pages about chassis I will pay someone to do repairs when that time comes . I just need the information on the miles of a new engine so I know when to service it the first time then

Here is a good resource for you..... Speedco can do most maintanence items on your diesel.....it's all they do.

Take it to them once a year.....

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Isn't the internet and this forum a wonderful thing. When you only get words, judgements and assumptions are made because it is not a conversation. This thread could be used in a training class. I hate to say it, but I just read the whole thing and I am still laughing at some of the posts.
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I feel for your situation , however when someone posts ( please reread your original post ) the manner in which you did ,with no background , which sounds like "just give me the answer and I don't care about any of the rest". Can you understand how that makes those wanting to direct you to the correct source may feel ? I'm sorry to say You came across arrogant and demanding ( without us having any background )
You have received a few good general answers ! If your not really driving it far one year is a good time! contrary to what you might think the engine size and coach can make a difference in maint schedules and brand new vs sitting on a lot unused for a year etc.all can matter. the manuals are large and difficult I agree , but you have purchased a complicated Machine. Most of us want the machine to last a good long time for you but Honestly if you only intend to use it for a year or two ( I'm assuming here) it really doesn't matter. Hopefully when the time comes you can enjoy it yourself for many years
While it's defiantly none of my business Whatever you are going through I hope you can find peace and some rest for yourself at some point. Frustration and Bitterness is unfortunately transparent I'll keep that in my prayers

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Now I'm confused .. I looked up your prior posts and see you are traveling a bit with 18? Dogs to shows .. !!! That is a handful! No doubt But you asked the same question last month it seems ? And got several good answers guess I don't understand why you asked again and in a different manner but ...
I never thought of it that way I was trying to save time and didn't relize that I came across like that , and the reson I said please don't say read the manual , there are tons of people out on social media cant answer the question but like to put in there 2 cents would have said read the mannual , and they will say things because the person cant see them face to face and some not all wouldn't have the guts to act that rude Manners have gone out the window with Social Media some say it is a from of Bulling and makes the person feel like the have some insight on the subjet , Please let me unconfusse you some , that was a few year ago when I had a little 16 ft toyhauler and my mother was not as sick as she is now and I could go to dogs shows then she has gottne worse , you know what COPD is its a death sentnce, you get where you can't walk because you can't get any air , its a slow panful death . I am sorry if I confussed you , and i do thank you for your adult answer , I did get some very good answers that i will use and some and few I will block them. I plan on using the rig as much as I can from April till Oct as long as no snow and of course as long as mom can still enjoy it some , but to be honset with you this might be her last trip , she is a small women but I can hardle get her up the steps by my self any more.I am sure my trip will be very limited if anymore at all this year of Taking it out again . i really do appericated all the positive advice I have gotten , but I think I won't be posting on her again . Thank you all that gave some really good advise
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My dear alwayson,

I've read this forum off and on since about 2005, but you finally got me to join. I gather the way things are usually done are more along the lines of "Sorry to bother you folks, while I know everyone has their own trials and tribulations in life, health issues, work commitments, family members who need you, and other aspects of daily life that consume your time, I could use a hand. I've got a new [name coach, year, and engine] and while I've tried to find it in the seeming 1000 pages of the manual I can't for the life of me find the service schedule. I too am burdened with things that consume my time, including one that is a whopper, but pardon me if I leave out the particulars. And I was hoping someone familiar with this engine could fill me in on when it is due for its first servicing. Thanks in advance for your time and assistance!"

Now you wouldn't need to say every word, but I wanted you to get a feel for the sentiment involved. Most folks here are incredibly helpful. Regardless of what you've experienced elsewhere, I don't believe you have license to breeze in and treat people rudely.

And yes, I read your first post as incredibly rude, demanding, and completely insensitive to what the people you expect help from may be experiencing in their own lives.

But I assure you, that alone would never have prompted me to go through the trouble of joining this forum. What got me out of my chair, figuratively, were your sanctimonious replies to people who gave you a dose of what you brought on yourself.

Not one, not two, but to just about every single person who tried to point out your post made you sound insufferable -- or, and this seems to be lost on you, those who tried to tip you off that RVing isn't always like driving a car. You can't always just get in, get going, and take it to the dealer to get fixed. Things are always shaking, always breaking, some repair places are dishonest, some are incompetent, and if you don't take an active hand in learning the systems you may find yourself stuck, or ripped off to the tune of, possibly, thousands of dollars. Now you may be blessed beyond belief and avoid all of this, but that is what they were trying to warn you about.

Now I'm going to use your smarmy replies to others as my inspiration for my final paragraph. There's a lesson here, if you are open to it

Thank you alwayson for putting these people in their place. They were rude to you and you would think they were raised in a barn. I get the feeling none of these men ever worked for 35 years or more in any job -- least of all in something noble like the military or law enforcement. Moreover, my mother raised me to know that if you care for someone like a saint, and suffer every day for it, other people should not only divine this fact through the magic of the Internet, but leave their criticism of you at the door. When you're burdened as you are, the last thing you need to worry about is coming into a new group and conversing in the respectful manner to which they've grown accustomed. Snapping your fingers and getting prompt service is what you were right to expect. You're paying these forum contributors good money after all. And since none of them have jobs, loved ones to care for, or even health issues of their own, you're the one due the benefit of the doubt and due deference, not the other way around. And, as you suggest, they might be stupid and worthless anyway, like on other social media outlets. No need to waste your time listening to them drone on with all their experience and nonsense like that. One would think everyone here was raised in a barn. Well alwayson, it's nice to find someone else who understands you get more bees with vinegar. Have a joyous day and a blessed life. You are an inspiration to people everywhere!
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