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Old 03-15-2017, 08:45 AM   #1
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First Post and question about windshields

Good morning,

Although this is our first post, we just want to say that this forum has been simply outstanding as a wealth of information as we have gone through the process of purchasing our first RV.

We take delivery of our Newmar Bay Star 3124 on Friday here in Virginia, and we are tying up some loose ends at the dealership.

The dealer seems to be really pushing us to buy a "Windshield Protection Package" at a price of $1495.00 to protect the windshield from cracking/breaking and to apply basically a Rain-x coating on it for improved visibility.

I have a Safeco insurance policy (rated very high by the members of this forum) which has a zero deductible glass rider, but the dealership is saying it can take weeks or sometimes months(?) to special order these windshields and get them replaced by a specialty glass shop via a traditional insurance claim, but if I buy their package Safelite will repair or replace the windshield at the RV dealership within a week.

I guess our big question is - can people comment on whether they have had a damaged windshield, covered by insurance, and how the process was with getting it repaired/replaced?

This seems like an awful lot of $$$ for something we are basically covered for.

Thanks so much in advance for any input.

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I can't comment on availability of a replacement windshield, I suggest checking with a couple of RV repair places or auto glass shops regarding availability. Also you could contact your insurance and ask them how long it takes to source a windshield.

I can say I have never had a broken windshield, I have had stone chips that are repairable but never a crack or break. I think windshield replacements are rare.

Sounds like the dealer has found a new way to separate you from your money, I would ask how he can get a windshield in a week that no one else can get. Rainex you can apply yourself if you so desire for a few bucks a bottle.

Personally I would keep that $1500 in my wallet to buy gas, beer and wine.
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Good morning,

Although this is our first post, we just want to say that this forum has been simply outstanding as a wealth of information as we have gone through the process of purchasing our first RV.

We take delivery of our Newmar Bay Star 3124 on Friday here in Virginia, and we are tying up some loose ends at the dealership.

The dealer seems to be really pushing us to buy a "Windshield Protection Package" at a price of $1495.00 to protect the windshield from cracking/breaking and to apply basically a Rain-x coating on it for improved visibility.

I have a Safeco insurance policy (rated very high by the members of this forum) which has a zero deductible glass rider, but the dealership is saying it can take weeks or sometimes months(?) to special order these windshields and get them replaced by a specialty glass shop via a traditional insurance claim, but if I buy their package Safelite will repair or replace the windshield at the RV dealership within a week.

I guess our big question is - can people comment on whether they have had a damaged windshield, covered by insurance, and how the process was with getting it repaired/replaced?

This seems like an awful lot of $$$ for something we are basically covered for.

Thanks so much in advance for any input.

-Jeff & Tracie
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Sounds nice if it works, which I doubt. There is little the dealer can do to protect the windshield that has not already been done before installation. Maybe ask if you can rent his magic wand and give mine a blessing too.... just kidding. Hold on to your money.
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.... but if I buy their package Safelite will repair or replace the windshield at the RV dealership within a week....
" IF " that's a fact ...... I wonder how much safelite would charge you to fix the window?
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as a Palazzo owner, with a large windshield replacement recently, and a agent for SAFECO myself, I can tell you some things that will help your decision:

-no 'package' that someone sells you is going to give you any cheaper, quicker, or better windshield replacement service - especially if it supposedly flows thru Safelite, which is the exact SAME provider that your SAFECO policy uses!
-you can easily apply RainX yourself, for about $5 a bottle. It's not anything special.
-every large RV windshield is susceptible to damage, which can be repaired for FREE with your Safeco policy if you have Comprehensive coverage, and can be Replaced for FREE if you also have the Safeco $0 Glass Damage rider as part of your Comprehensive coverage.


my story, which DOES reinforce reports that very large RV windshields can take more time than the typical 'on-the-spot' windshield replacements you see on TV ads:

-in Jan I started a personal auto policy claim for windshield replacement on my Palazzo, a large crack had sprung from a recent rock damage, creating a possible future crack across the whole windshield. Safeco typically hands these 'Glass-Only' claims off directly to their preferred provider SAFELITE(though you can certainly use any body shop or glass shop you prefer, though few can handle such a large piece of glass)...

-I received a call from a Safelite RV glass specialist, who asked me further questions about the approximate size and printed 'model' of the glass, as well as the yr, mk, model, etc of the coach, and a confirmation of whether the windshield had rubber molding around it.
-He mentioned that he would need to find the exact replacement glass, and find out how long it would take to get it as these are not the typical windshields that most glass providers keep in inventory. The factory would have to ship it to the shop where the replacement would happen.
-He asked where I would like the service performed. I said either a SAFELITE corporate shop, or NIRVC, a very large dealership near Atlanta that has a brand new facility and handles very large coaches everyday, such as the Palazzos, Newmars, Entegras, and others.
-He said that he would suggest a shop within 20 miles of me, but the shop he suggested was a very small 'mom and pop' type operation. I declined and pushed for NIRVC, as I have been there before and know there level of expertise and professionalism. I agreed that he would try them and let me know.
-He called about a week later, which I found a little frustrating, and commented that while they could do the work for SAFELITE, they would not provide a 'Guarantee' and therefore he would not approve them. I told him that I would 'waive' the need for any guarantee and still wanted them to do the work. He agreed that he would then allow the work to be performed there, and he would be able to ship the glass directly to them, but would need to check and see how long it would take.
-He emailed me, after another several days had passed, on Thursday, and said that the glass could arrive on the following Friday. I replied, fine, and asked him to have NIRVC set my appointment up for the following Monday after the glass arrives.
-I received a call the next day from Ken at NIRVC in Atlanta, who confirmed my appointment I requested, and to feel free to arrive anytime over the weekend as they have 50a hookups, and also provided me the gate code... Nice.

-I arrived over the weekend for the appointment, plugged in and was ready the next morning for the Monday glass replacement.
-A nice young man, a valet, stopped by to drive my coach over to the service bay, which was on the back side of the large 'all indoor' facility. I walked over to the customer waiting area, where I had access to wifi, snacks, drinks, and could even take a look around the indoor sales floor - this place has MANY new coaches to drool over.

-After a while I walked thru the sales floor to the back end where I found my coach, which was also plugged in, and found the service techs removing the cracked windshield. Interestingly, though, they were NOT employees of NIRVC, but techs for a glass repair and replacement company, ABRA, that NIRVC had hired to do this job, but NIRVC would oversee. They had arrived in two ABRA vans, as it would take two people to handle this large, heavy windshield. I watched much of their efforts as I wanted to see how difficult the replacement might be.... and it was. It is heavy, it is cumbersome, and is very large. There is no 'machine' to help handle this(though I've seen videos of dealerships using a forklift and platform to help).
-about 3 hours later they had it completed. The actual hardest part of the whole process may have been adding the rubber seal around the edges, as it needs to be very tight to protect from water, of course. It wasn't easy.

I'm happy to say that everything went well, and the new windshield looks great and works perfectly, no water or air leaks.

to sum up: it's not an easy process as with normal vehicles. it's not for just any dealership to handle. and it's not as quick of a process as might to be expected.
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......the dealership is saying it can take weeks or sometimes months(?) to special order these windshields and get them replaced by a specialty glass shop via a traditional insurance claim.......



-Jeff & Tracie

I work at a dealership and would never pay for a glass windshield plan, whatever that is.

We replace probably 50 windshields a year, and wait usually 7-10 days to get them. We get all of our windshields from Coach Glass. Like NIRVC, we contract the work to a local glass company that comes to our dealership and replaces them in a couple hours.

Sounds like nothing but a gimmick to put more money in their pockets.
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This s huge markup item for the dealers. I'd pass on it. You already have glass coverage. They have a relationship with Safelight to have you windshield replaced at the dealership? What if you're in Ogallala Nebraska or Uvalde Texas when your windshied breaks. They gonna come out to you?
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Dealer fluff.
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Old 03-15-2017, 12:23 PM   #11
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first things first
I have had a number of windshields replaced. We have been doing the MH thing for 20 years.
You will wait a few days for the glass to be shipped but install is a few hours.
I make a claim with the insurance company and they handle it all. With one exception. If I am at home I tell them where I want to take it, a installer I know and trust, and they ship to them and pay them. Easy peasy
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As you can see by now, most of us will see that windshield plan being offered to you by the selling dealer as a money maker for them, money taker from you. I have had my windshield replaced at a cost of $0 dollars, thanks to zero-deductible windshield coverage from my insurance company. Prior to that, I had several rock chips repaired as they developed and tried very hard NOT to replace the windshield for fear of a poor install job leading to leaks. RV windshields aren't the same beast as in cars, and there are reports on this forum and elsewhere about not only leaking windows, but also sub-standard windshields installed by some 3rd party providers. So when it came time for me to have my windshield replaced (a chip turned into a crack, which grew until it was inevitable), I decided to have my RV manufacturer do the install. I'm not sure that I got a better product or labor, but I did it this way anyway for piece of mind.

You did not specifically ask about other dealer programs that you may be considering, but if they are trying to sell you a policy for servicing or replacing other elements to the RV, read the fine print. In the excitement of buying our most recent RV (first DP), against my better judgement I bought one of those plans. When I tried to use it for a closet door that broke while driving down the road, it wasn't covered. When I tried to use it for an improper alignment on front axle right off the sales floor, that wasn't covered. I had a light go out... not covered. When one of the full wall slide lock-downs snapped... not covered. Never again for me.
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Insurance already covers it

You certainly do not need anything extra from the dealer in regard to the windshield. Ours cracked last fall and we called while in Cody Wyoming. Insurance arranged for the glass to be shipped from Elkhart to Great Falls, where a windshield shop received it and we brought in our coach. It took the morning and we waited in the campground for another day so that the mastic would be fully set. Also the windshield shop came out to the campground and corrected a small spot that did not have enough mastic that I detected.

All was done for ZERO $ out of pocket. Insurance is the right path, not a dealer add on.
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...the dealership is saying it can take weeks or sometimes months(?) to special order these windshields and get them replaced by a specialty glass shop via a traditional insurance claim, but if I buy their package Safelite will repair or replace the windshield at the RV dealership within a week.
So what, the dealer is claiming that if you pay them $1500 upfront, they will pre-purchase the windshield and store it for you so that it will always be available IF you need it? If not, then wouldn't it STILL need to be special ordered? Wow, what a crock of .... That would make me really wonder about the integrity of the dealership on ALL other issues as well.

BTW, nothing can "improve the visibility" of clean glass; RainX is a great treatment that helps rain "sheet off" the glass while driving, and is easily applied by anyone (about $5 per bottle at any retail store, enough for multiple applications). In fact, I use RainX brand windshield washer fluid in all my vehicles; it basically treats the windshield with RainX every time I use the washers. It really does work well, but it's temporary. That's why the RainX washer fluid is so great; it re-applies every time the washers are used..
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