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Old 02-28-2014, 10:55 AM   #1
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Fleetwood windows replacement, yes or no

Hi All, since I know i have to take out my leaky drivers window, I figure I might as well just go ahead and replace all of my foggy windows.

I called fleetwood, and they quoted me just under 2 grand to get me replacement windows all the way around.

Now here's the thing, Fleetwood is telling me they are made by the same company... seagi or something like that.

I have zero issue with the money, seems ok to me, BUT am I gonna get juked by them selling me a window that's been sitting around for 8 years??

How can I verify how fresh these windows are? I don't really have time to measure and pattern and send to suncoast and all that jazz, and I don't have time to drive to florida, much less the fuel cost.

I also am not sure if a local glass company in houston can take them apart and put them back together and save me money at the same time... so i dunno what to do...

any thoughts?
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Hi All, since I know i have to take out my leaky drivers window, I figure I might as well just go ahead and replace all of my foggy windows.

I called fleetwood, and they quoted me just under 2 grand to get me replacement windows all the way around.

Now here's the thing, Fleetwood is telling me they are made by the same company... seagi or something like that.

I have zero issue with the money, seems ok to me, BUT am I gonna get juked by them selling me a window that's been sitting around for 8 years??

How can I verify how fresh these windows are? I don't really have time to measure and pattern and send to suncoast and all that jazz, and I don't have time to drive to florida, much less the fuel cost.

I also am not sure if a local glass company in houston can take them apart and put them back together and save me money at the same time... so i dunno what to do...

any thoughts?
Actually, that price doesn't sound bad (except for the fact it's still $2K). As for vintage of windows, who knows ... but they are probably new and maybe some are custom. Mostly it's a question of how bad your existing windows annoy you. The bad news is that the windows tend to fog again at some point. it's tough to keep a seal between glass in a rocking/twisting vehicle.
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If I remember your MH isn't that old? How did they get foggie? Did you see if they would be covered under warranty maybe? I would think that that is a manufacture warranty lifetime? Worth 10min phone call. Try resealing them yourself might just need a little sealer. I know a lot of ifs.
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coach is a 2005. Mine is too and my windows also have varying levels of fog.

Interestingly, I was thinking of looking around at covering my windows with perforated vinyl like I see on many uber-high end coaches to match the paint scheme. I just like the look when I see it, but don't know where to start in terms of doing it. If the windows had the perforated vinyl, you would never notice the fogging.

Just a thought. BTW, $2K is a pretty good deal me thinks! I wouldn't bother paying someone else to repair if they can be had new with all new hardware for that price honestly. You could do it yourself cheaper, but perhaps just drop the 2K, install yourself (that isn't complicated) and then let me know how it goes. Having new black window frames and hardware will definitely improve the look of the coach.

BTW, if you were still considering painting, you want to pull the old windows - paint coach - then install new.

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coach is a 2005. Mine is too and my windows also have varying levels of fog.

Interestingly, I was thinking of looking around at covering my windows with perforated vinyl like I see on many uber-high end coaches to match the paint scheme. I just like the look when I see it, but don't know where to start in terms of doing it. If the windows had the perforated vinyl, you would never notice the fogging.

Just a thought. BTW, $2K is a pretty good deal me thinks! I wouldn't bother paying someone else to repair if they can be had new with all new hardware for that price honestly. You could do it yourself cheaper, but perhaps just drop the 2K, install yourself (that isn't complicated) and then let me know how it goes. Having new black window frames and hardware will definitely improve the look of the coach.

BTW, if you were still considering painting, you want to pull the old windows - paint coach - then install new.

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ME TOO! I think that looks so hot and makes a coach look high end.

here's what I found out.

It will also cost me $150.00 per window to have them swapped.

My local rv guy told me of a place in Arkansas that will clean them and reseal them. Cost there is $200 per window.

SO here's my thought. The drivers window has to come out when I get the wall fixed... this is before I will be near arkansas. So I say buy the fleetwood drivers window, and have it changed when I put in the wall, so it only has to be done once and water sealed correctly. That's 700 total.

Then on my way to Chicago next month from Dallas, arkansas is right on my way. Stop there and do the rest of the windows (that's 9 windows x 200 = 1800)

1800 + 700 = 2500.

VS 6 new windows at $2000 + 150 x 6 = 2900.

Mind you, in the first set of numbers there, I calculated on every window, including bathroom and bedroom. In my second version, I only calculated the front and slide windows, leaving the bedroom and bathroom out.

Version 1 is the better route me thinks.
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ME TOO! I think that looks so hot and makes a coach look high end.

here's what I found out.

It will also cost me $150.00 per window to have them swapped.

My local rv guy told me of a place in Arkansas that will clean them and reseal them. Cost there is $200 per window.

SO here's my thought. The drivers window has to come out when I get the wall fixed... this is before I will be near arkansas. So I say buy the fleetwood drivers window, and have it changed when I put in the wall, so it only has to be done once and water sealed correctly. That's 700 total.

Then on my way to Chicago next month from Dallas, arkansas is right on my way. Stop there and do the rest of the windows (that's 9 windows x 200 = 1800)

1800 + 700 = 2500.

VS 6 new windows at $2000 + 150 x 6 = 2900.

Mind you, in the first set of numbers there, I calculated on every window, including bathroom and bedroom. In my second version, I only calculated the front and slide windows, leaving the bedroom and bathroom out.

Version 1 is the better route me thinks.
and on the other hand, having nice new hardware and screens inside and out is nice too.
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Be aware that, if the moisture between the panes is excessive, the glass will likely be etched and won't clean up completely. Look at each window carefully ... etching looks just like it sounds ... it will look somewhat frosty, like old glassware that has been thru the dishwasher a million times. If you have some of those, you may want to rethink the new vs. cleaned scenario. Of course you can do mix and match too ... some new, some cleaned. If you get new, I'd keep the old windows ... there may be a person that wants them even if foggy ... Craigs List. If not, you can always dispose of locally.
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When mine were done, I left one window in the bedroom untouched since it is behind the bed like a headboard and it is such a pita to open and close those blinds they are left down permanently.
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When mine were done, I left one window in the bedroom untouched since it is behind the bed like a headboard and it is such a pita to open and close those blinds they are left down permanently.
Mine is like that too. I'm just not sure what to do.

New is more money, but they look nicer, plus you get new screens. Mine feel like if you touched em just right they might turn to dust.
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$150 per window to install them? What am I missing here. ~10 screws and some sealant, right? Is there Unicorn Horn sprinkles involved here I am not thinking of?

If you could install yourselves new is a no brainer.

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SE-GI windows suck. You cannot buy them direct from the factory, only through a dealer. You can find a repair facility that will do the repair for 200-300 per window depending on size. I suggest you spend some time with Google looking for "foggy window repair" or something like that and find a repair facility. There is a guy (Dave Root) that sells kits so you can do the repair yourself. Here again, Google "Dave Root"
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SE-GI windows suck. You cannot buy them direct from the factory, only through a dealer. You can find a repair facility that will do the repair for 200-300 per window depending on size. I suggest you spend some time with Google looking for "foggy window repair" or something like that and find a repair facility. There is a guy (Dave Root) that sells kits so you can do the repair yourself. Here again, Google "Dave Root"
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Repair is no fun at all (been there ... did 4 of them). In my case, I'm retired and my time is essentially free and mostly available. So, I save a bunch of $ that I can't otherwise earn. Also, my RV is old so not worth spending that kind of money. If it wasn't for that I wouldn't do it. The 3 piece assemblies (like driver and passenger cockpit) are particularly horrible. Getting lift bars off without bending them is tedious.

If you have the cash, let someone else do it ... really.
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They are sorry windows I had 2 replace under warranty before a year old.
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$150 per window to install them? What am I missing here. ~10 screws and some sealant, right? Is there Unicorn Horn sprinkles involved here I am not thinking of?

If you could install yourselves new is a no brainer.

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It depends on interior window treatments. If you have to remove inside blinds and fabric "stuff" to get at the inside screws, it can easily take an hour per window out/in. Even if it's not totally in the way, the new windows aren't predrilled and it's difficult to drive the self-tapping screws "carefully".
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