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Old 10-26-2014, 09:12 PM   #29
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Most of us started in gassers, 400 horse is not enough diesel horsepower are you kidding, your 26000 pound coach that has a V10 will not keep up with my 12 year diesel 40000 pound cummins ISL powered ever, especially going up a hill, and as far as braking are you kidding, not sure what you had for diesels but they must have been from the 80's or 90's if your V10 gas engine can out pull them. you can not pull anything over 4K pounds which is a small car at best, and at that it would drastically harm the performance of your V10 where as 7500lbs of trailer car and motorcycle is hardly noticeable behind my coach.

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Hi Moxy he is just trying to frustrate you and me. Don't reply to that guy. He obviously has NEVER really driven a DP period!
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Hi Moxy he is just trying to frustrate you and me. Don't reply to that guy. He obviously has NEVER really driven a DP period!
Agreed!
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Old 10-26-2014, 11:32 PM   #32
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I choose gas over diesel just because I can work on it. As stated by others there will be no hills that you cannot get over even with a toad. It will be slower, but then what is the hurry???? You get a better view of the scenery because one is not traveling so fast. Our MH has a Chevy 454 and it pulled our 31 footer and our toad over the Rockies and I was never anywhere near flooring it. For speed you want to use peak horsepower, for pulling power all you need is to use peak torque, which is about 2000 RPMs for our engine. That kept us between 30 and 40 MPH. we passed some semis and some semis passed us. We are never in any hurry so going slower doesn't bother us one bit.

With all that being said, you will have no problems with a gas engine and you will enjoy the lesser initial expense. And wyorancher was correct, most people do not keep their DP MHs long enough to justify the cost of a diesel engine. What they are gaining is lots of torque to go over hills, air ride suspension, and quiet because the engine is in the rear. So find a setup you like and go with that, if you do keep yours and need a rebuild at 200,000 miles you will be among the few who run theirs over 10 years.


Grandpere, there is a huge difference in weight from a 31ft to a 40 ft motorhome. Your 454 would work well with a lighter motorhome. I do believe that a DP is the only way to go when you get to the 40 ft mark for all of the above reasons. Yes it is more expensive and yes you will probably never put 500k miles on it but the ride and comfort of having that much power and the noise 40 feet behind you along with all of the other changes to the chassis such as air brakes, air suspension etc makes it worthwhile in my opinion.
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Hi Moxy he is just trying to frustrate you and me. Don't reply to that guy. He obviously has NEVER really driven a DP period!
I've owned 2 dp's. A Monaco 300 hp Cummins an my last one that I sold a few months ago was a 2006 Winnebago Journey with a 350 hp Cat. Nice try.
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Most of us started in gassers, 400 horse is not enough diesel horsepower are you kidding, your 26000 pound coach that has a V10 will not keep up with my 12 year diesel 40000 pound cummins ISL powered ever, especially going up a hill, and as far as braking are you kidding, not sure what you had for diesels but they must have been from the 80's or 90's if your V10 gas engine can out pull them. you can not pull anything over 4K pounds which is a small car at best, and at that it would drastically harm the performance of your V10 where as 7500lbs of trailer car and motorcycle is hardly noticeable behind my coach.

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You're comparing your 14 yr old dp with a new gasser. Good luck with that. I had a gasser that I bought new in 1995 with a Ford 460 and pulled a 10k lb 32' race car trailer all over the country with no problem. To say a gasser won't pull a load is showing your ignorance.
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I prefer a new gasser, but if a used DP fell in my lap for a good deal I may take it. I can do some of the maintenance on the gasser where I know absolutely nothing about a DP. This includes how to start, stop, air up, air down, etc.

It would have to be a great deal being I am leery of the DP maintenance also.
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