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Old 12-04-2019, 07:53 PM   #1
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Generator handling?

I have an onboard propane Onan 6500 gen.Way too loud and sucks too much propane when most run time is to charge house bank. Solution: bought a 4500 watt portable. New problem..... how to load / unload into basement bay without breaking my back, 98lbs. is on wheels. I am thinking maybe a ramp or? what suggestion have you folks got?? Thanks in advance for your help. TB
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I would think a ramp is a great idea or possibly a slide tray so you could pull it out to run it and push it in for travel
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Old 12-04-2019, 09:49 PM   #3
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I thought of the slide but don't want to leave bay door open for extended periods. and thanks for NOT suggesting a smaller unit. the 4500 is propane powered, will easily run AC and has remote start/stop. Boondocking best!
I am thinking a folding ramp. will have to experiment with length vs effort to push unit up. Thanks for your reply! TB
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Old 12-04-2019, 11:27 PM   #4
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and thanks for NOT suggesting a smaller unit.
AW shucks now I am going to ask my my question in a different way.

If you problem is too much noise and fuel use, why do you think you have solved those issues?

First off I am interested in how to store and lift a bigger portable generator the next time my Onan needs a new $300 part.

My approach to noise and fuel use while boondocking is to use less electricity.
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If you don't tow, you could consider a hitch mounted platform on the back. Mount it and leave it - no need to remove it to run.

Or, once in the basement, install an exhaust system so you can run it from inside?

Last - remove the old gen and put this in it's place?
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If fuel & noise & weight are the genset issues, why did you not choose a 2000W portable inverter-generator? That's plenty for charging, lights, etc, sips fuel, runs quiet and weighs more like 60#. I'll grant the 4500 is better than a 6500 lp genset of fuel, but I doubt if noise is much less and 98 lbs is too much to lug even several feet.
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Old 12-05-2019, 05:16 PM   #7
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sips fuel
Is that a technical term?

The reason I am skeptical Gary is there is never any data to support claims. And there never will be either because fuel cost is not an important factor. for the RV market for making electricity.

It is about marketing. Tell someone on the box they will save money and they will believe it.

So my box has $100 price tag, your inveterate/generator has $1000 price tag. If by sipping you mean 10% more efficient, calculate how long it will take before you save any money.

As far noise is concerned my $100 generator is quieter than the very expensive Onan.

It is the truth. The marketing guys are selling to the gullible. You can do a test where stand 5 feet away and measure the noise level. According to the test the Onan is quieter. According to me it is not.

Why? Because I I do not stand 5 feet away. If I am in the MH watching TV while charging the batteries the Onan is under me but the portable generator is sitting on the ground behind the MH.
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Install it permanently, add some piping to route the exhaust pipe as needed. Install noise baffling on the walls of the generator bay.
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remote start/stop.
Something else to think about.

Your Onan has a time delay from starting to let it warm up before 120 vac is supplied to the MH. There are also protective features to prevent damaging loads in the MH.

When using a portable generator, I let warm up a few minutes before plugging it in.
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If you don't tow, you could consider a hitch mounted platform on the back.
I was at a rest stop and saw a MH that was towing and had a platform with bicycles. Walmart sells a Dual Hitch Extension https://www.walmart.com/ip/MaxxHaul-...xoC1DUQAvD_BwE
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I was at a rest stop and saw a MH that was towing and had a platform with bicycles. Walmart sells a Dual Hitch Extension https://www.walmart.com/ip/MaxxHaul-...xoC1DUQAvD_BwE
Using a hitch carrier can work well with the dual hitch adapter is it doesn't interfere with your tow bar:

https://youtu.be/_mfLHqBeaIw
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Another possibility is a table with folding legs:



Cut the legs to the same height as the basement compartment and just roll the genny in and out of storage,
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Something else to think about.

Your Onan has a time delay from starting to let it warm up before 120 vac is supplied to the MH. There are also protective features to prevent damaging loads in the MH.

When using a portable generator, I let warm up a few minutes before plugging it in.
My surge protector also had delay start so should be fine..... I hope. Thanks for that consideration!
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Another possibility is a table with folding legs:



Cut the legs to the same height as the basement compartment and just roll the genny in and out of storage,
Wow! that deserves some consideration! Brilliant! and exactly the kind of creative feedback I was looking for!

All those that suggest a smaller unit do not gat that I want to run an AC too. also, this is propane powered and has remote start/stop. alll makes a slick package. THX!
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