Thanks for the insight 4fun, I have to make up my mind on this unit today, It's on e-bay and I can buy it for 30K seems too good to be true at that price I think I'm going for it. others like it are going for 45K and up. only 500 down and I can inspect it before forking out the rest. wish us luck. As for the protestors, well it takes all kinds,,I'm just greatfull for the one's I'm blessed with here at home .