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Old 12-02-2011, 09:12 PM   #15
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I own a MN trucking company.....key is momentuem in moderation (to keep rolling), were you park (downhill) - park on an uphill and you are going nowwhere and make sure when you stop have traction underneath (to get your rig moving). Stop on an uphill incline on snow or ice....your warm tires melt in and you are stuck. Snow tires up here? haven't seen them. Make sure you have tread - don't run on skins......and a carefull slow speed driving to avoid slidding into an area that you can't get out of.
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Old 12-02-2011, 09:35 PM   #16
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Old 12-02-2011, 10:59 PM   #17
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DA_BUS good point about not stopping uphill. Even my car with full snows tends to get stuck on our 1% driveway sometimes cause of under-tire freeze.

Sidewinder, another good find, thanks. I imagine having a siping machine run over that would really make for something good. Only concern would be the ride, as it is clearly a full on truck tire.
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Old 12-03-2011, 10:07 AM   #18
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you are just looking for trouble in the snow, bring a fat wallet to get towed out. I have seen motor homes in 90 degree weather stuck on wet grass at Nascar events.
Ha! That was us at the September Race in Richmond VA this year. We were the first one's into Lot J - and the first one's stuck! It was a wet, rainy few days before the race weekend, and RIR had to call in a fleet of tow trucks to pull people out of the wet, muddy grass. It didn't matter if you had a TT, 5th wheel, single or tag axle Class A. There were people stuck in just about every row.

For me, I was backing up to get a better position into our spot - going slowly, taking it very easy on the throttle, as I knew the ground was wet and no sooner did I roll back into the spot behind us, and I felt the back of the motorhome sink into the ground.

It didn't take much of a soft spot for us to get stuck in the mud ...












The TT in this photo AND the Tag Axle DP in the background got stuck as well. They had to call in the big rig, a 4 axle tow truck with a HUGE crane arm on the back, to pull out the DP




At least we didn't have to pay for the tow out - the towing companies charged the track for all the assistance. I am sure they made a bundle that weekend.
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Old 12-03-2011, 10:16 AM   #19
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School buses sometimes use a compressed air, automatic chain device to spin a chain under the wheel as you are traveling. It will cost you about $2K. I had it bookmarked and lost it. My guess is that it will lay down 6+ pieces of chain for each tire rotation.
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Old 12-03-2011, 10:19 AM   #20
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Excellent point about watching what you park on. Last winter we ran up the mountain with the chains (cables) on and pulled into a nice flat spot in RV park. Didn't pay attention to the hard packed snow we parked on. After 5 days the drive wheels had sunk so deep I couldn't get out even with the chains still on. Had to get the snow removal guy to pull me out with his end loader.

To the point of the original post, we have no trouble with our regular tires till chains required. Don't use jake or engine brake in slippery conditions or you will go sideways. Every manoeuvre with moderation.

Those Autosocks look awesome, but are not approved in all states. Here in CA we must have metal chains or cables to get past CHP.
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Scooter, I've seen 2 companies doing auto chains: Onspot and Insta-Chain. Very interesting concept, tho I do wonder just how well they work. Specifically, I worry if they are effective at slow speeds. I plan to augment my snow-stuck equipment with a few other tricks, including the towel trick and a traction board (long piece of material with rough surface on both sides).

LA-HODAG, can you expand on your experience a bit? Hearing from people who have actually dealt with this is the most valuable thing I can have. You running a big DP or a gas unit with 16" tires? What tires you run? Just how deep do you get? Been ok with hard packed/icy and 6" deep alike? Thanks.
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... auto chains: Onspot and Insta-Chain. Very interesting concept, tho I do wonder just how well they work.
I see a lot of fire trucks with the automatic chains....
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Old 12-03-2011, 03:39 PM   #23
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I don't know what your options are, my choice is not to drive in snow or ice. Not worth the expense of trying to do it...snow tires/chains, etc, or getting towed out after being stuck.
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Snow and ice are unfortunately an unavoidable part of the trip. Visiting ski resorts in the summer ain't quite as much fun
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Old 12-03-2011, 08:58 PM   #25
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Michelin XRV's. Plenty of traction in snow. I think 15000 lb on 4 tires is enough to move you forward. Even in the mud, I am amazed what a DP will climb out of by itself.
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Old 12-03-2011, 09:42 PM   #26
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You have a truck shop run those thru a siping machine? Or you've actually had good luck in snow just as they are?
XRV don't come in the exact size I need unfortunately, but I imagine the 235/80's are an acceptable substitute (and would actually be better in snow per the narrower section).
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Freek, my snow experience was 7 years of 3 or 4 ski trips each year to Mammoth and Tahoe from LA in my Prevost bus which is pretty big. 40 ft w/ tag axel. I ran on Kumho KRS2 22.5tires which are equivalent to Michelein. Had to chain up about 10 times. Many times did not. I would only put on chains if required by CHP. Installing cable chains on the bus is easier than on a car. My new rig is 40 ft dp w/o tag and 10,000 lbs lighter than the bus. Not expecting much difference. Just got new cables for December trip.
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... to Mammoth and Tahoe...
Does Mammoth have RV skier parking or did you stay in town at the CG there which I think is open all year?
How about Tahoe?
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