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Old 08-05-2007, 04:50 PM   #1
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OK you all can see what coach I have.

My question is are there any coaches out there for under 250K that are dependable, or are they like the old snowmobiles, you ride them and fix them, then fix them again and then maybe ride them?

Everytime we use this coach something goes wrong with it, very first time the leveling system blew a line (which still does not work properly) the dash air went out, the roof air condintioners kept freezing up.

Since then the refridgerator had issues and has them again while on this trip to Yellowstone. The rear seal blew on the axel, the dash air is freezing up and not working, it sounds like the AC compressor is going to blow, the side cameras have intermittent working problems. The transmission seems like it sure doesnt like to climb hills.

Is this typical?

Someone please tell me that I can find a coach for under 250K that I can use without worrying what is going to go wrong with it the next time I drive it.

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OK you all can see what coach I have.

My question is are there any coaches out there for under 250K that are dependable, or are they like the old snowmobiles, you ride them and fix them, then fix them again and then maybe ride them?

Everytime we use this coach something goes wrong with it, very first time the leveling system blew a line (which still does not work properly) the dash air went out, the roof air condintioners kept freezing up.

Since then the refridgerator had issues and has them again while on this trip to Yellowstone. The rear seal blew on the axel, the dash air is freezing up and not working, it sounds like the AC compressor is going to blow, the side cameras have intermittent working problems. The transmission seems like it sure doesnt like to climb hills.

Is this typical?

Someone please tell me that I can find a coach for under 250K that I can use without worrying what is going to go wrong with it the next time I drive it.

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Old 08-05-2007, 05:37 PM   #3
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Unfortunately, there is no guarantee that any manufacturer's coach will be problem free.

You can get a new Dutch Star for under $250K, and I believe it's one of the best.
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It certainly is not typical. I'm sorry to read of your problems.

If you're willing to buy a pre-owned coach then you can find a huge selection to choose from.

I'd recommend you consider a pre-owned Newmar or Tiffin product. Both are well built by privately held family owned companies.

Newmar is in Napanee, Indianna and Tiffin is in Red Bay, Alabama.

Popular models for Tiffin are the Allegro Bus and Phaeton. For Newmar, the Dutch Star (my coach) and Mountain Aire are probably the most popular.

In '03 we found a '98 Dutch Star with 54k miles and a floor plan we really liked. It was 5 years old and very well cared for. I figured that anything that would go wrong had been fixed under warrenty during the first 3 years.

I was right as we now have 80K+ miles on it and we have lived in it fulltime since April of '06.

Yes, there have been minor repairs. But, they were parts that after 7 years or so just wear out. Nothing major. I service the engine and chassis every 6,000 miles or once per year, which ever comes first.

Star looking around. Start with Newmar and Tiffin. You'll likely be happy with either.
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I agree with Digital Boy about Newmar and Tiffin being good coaches. We have a Tiffin Allegro Bay gasser and have had very few problems.

I don't know about the Newmar diesels, but all Phaeton diesels except the 42 foot with tag axle list for well under $250k NEW. Of all diesel coaches, the Phaeton was the number 1 selling diesel last year.
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Both Newmar and Tiffin are great choices. Any RV will need the occaisional service work but I've had two Allegro Busses so far and had minimal service work required. I'm very happy and the only way I feel I could improve on quality/reliability/service would be to go to a Marathon Coach or other Prevost based conversion unit.
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