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Old 04-12-2012, 07:46 PM   #15
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Mr_D, Not the forum's software fault ...

What you might want to do the next time is cut a "Snip" using the tool in WIN7. Save the snip and upload it in the photo gallery. Next copy and paste it in the post like you would have wanted to.

You can also save the snip on your machine. Go to the Manage Attachment button "below" in the make a new or reply to a post. You'll see it. Click on the "Browse" and find the snip. Click on "Upload." Close the window and save the post. It'll show up as an attachment. Don't make the snip too BIG or it won't upload - file size limits are stated.

TaDa !!!

No really. It is the forum software that strips the extra spaces. Saving the post as a picture to get around it is just a pain, but all forum s/w does this.

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No really. It is the forum software that strips the extra spaces. Saving the post as a picture to get around it is just a pain, but all forum s/w does this.
Sorry for the inconvenience .... here's a sample.

I have embedded a pic or graphic (above) (Excel) grid file in the text box and also have attached (below) the same file. You can exhibit table files ... just need a little patience.

With this software it's either or but not both.
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Thanks for the input. On the one hand, it didn't make sense to have coaches with too many limitations, OTOH I know there are some roads truckers don't try. I'm more encouraged also about how I may be able to enjoy the coach. My goal is not to drive every road, but I didn't want to have a road get in the way of where I wanted to go.

I did buy the Mountain Guide, very good info. It actually helped plan a route down from Michigan that would minimize the grades until I get the ol' girl home where I can do a re-baseline of all important fluids, lubes, filters, parts, pads, bushings, etc.

I already anticipated having to go slow up and down... I've done that towing boats. But it's been years since I've driven a coach, and never any "real" distance. But, now's the time.

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Steepest grade that I have RV'd was in Utah @ 14%. I was more concerned about the width of the roadway. That drop into a river canyon on both sides was intimidating. I believe the River on the right was the Colorado, and the one on the Left the Green River.Got to admit, the view was something to behold!
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I've driven our 33' gasser, 40' DP, and the 42' tag axle DP on various mountain roads. This includes the Beartooth Highway, Mount Evans (up to Echo Lake at 11,000'), Colorado's Million Dollar Highway, US-14 and 14A in the Bighorn Mountains, and a ton more.

Really, it's not about the percent of grade when climbing. It more about the duration. Most any coach will climb most any grade as long as you aren't looking to set any speed records. What will affect it is the length of the grade. If you are working hard climbing at 35 MPH and constantly shifting when you encounter a series of switchback curves it's hard on the transmision. I find it best to manually shift to a lower gear so that the Allison doesn't grad a highe gear near tjhe end of the run only to have to go all the way down again for the next switchback. It's also harder on the cooling system, which on an older P30 chassis with a 454 probably isn't overly tolerant of that. So, short climbs are fine but if they go on and on forever the heat will accumulate and you may experience some problems unless you can park it and let it rest for a while.

I'm more concerned about downgrades than I am about upgrades. An example is US-14A that climbs the Bighorns. It's a severe climb and there's no place for a rest. I've done it in the diesel pushers without any problem but my W20 gasser was strecthed to the limit. But i will not go downhill on that same grade. The brakes just can't get rid of the heat because it's constant use of the brakes with no place to rest. Same holds true with the Beartooth Highway. I'll take it southbound out of Red Lodge but never northbound because the switchback climb on the north face is too extreme. I'll take the Chief Joseph Highway around those grade if I have to head northbound.

Proper preparation is key to mountain driving. Your cooling system needs to be in top shape. No plugged fins or gunky radiator tubing. Also, brake fluid should be replaced every three years because it's hygroscopic and absorbs water, which turns to steam when it gets hot and gives you a mushy pedal with no brakes. Transmission service is also critical, which is why I prefer synthetic transmision fluid, such as Allison's TranSynd.

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