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Old 12-11-2014, 04:10 PM   #1
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Green or pink

I have a 99 dsdp, with a Cummins and I took a sample of antifreeze to have it analyze. The shop owner, said that if i switch to the pink color antifreeze, that I would not have to have to do that anymore.

Has anyone made the switch from green to pink? Would like to hear from anyone that has done this.

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He is correct Smoker.......Not so much by the color as just use the proper replacement coolant.........Here is a thread on this subject Coolant Info From Freightliner


Here is some more threads to look through https://www.google.com/search?q=sca+...y=0&gws_rd=ssl
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If the mechanic is saying to change to "pink" coolant, I'd find a new mechanic. Color has nothing to do with the formulation of coolant. You need the correct coolant and even that depends on whether you have a ISB or a ISC
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Old 12-14-2014, 06:39 AM   #4
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Green or pink

Thanks for the information, guess that i'll stay green.

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Thanks for the information, guess that i'll stay green.

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I changed my radiator out a couple of years ago Smoker, I thought about it, and decided to just leave the green in also. It does not take to much to maintain the proper level of SCA. I check mine once a year with fresh, brand new strips, and I make sure as to ask about the date code on them, the date code is very important as far as the test strip's performance.
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Thanks Palehorse89, I didn't know about the date of the strips, I'll be sure and asked the next time I have it check. I take a sample in to have it check when I m getting ready to store the mh for winter.

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Old 12-14-2014, 03:15 PM   #7
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"smoker"....I think you're getting some bad info. If you look at the post with the link to Freightliner, it's from 2006. Since then and especially now, ALL new coaches use OAT Coolant (Organic Acid Technology). It doesn't require any checking of SCA's or DCA's. It's pretty much replace and forget.

Changing the coolant isn't as dreaded of a job as posted in the link either.

I got tired of the test strips and worrying about adding additives. I changed the coolant out on my 2005 Monaco Diplomat. Get the engine up to temp with the heater turned on. Drain the coolant. I used a large plastic party bucket. Fill the system with water, heat engine and drain. Some like to do a third flush with distilled water.

Once you're done flushing, purchase an OAT coolant. There are several brands. I used Final Charge. Buy a couple of gallons of concentrate and the rest 50/50 mix. Add the two gallons of concentrate and then fill the rest with 50/50. The first two gallons of concentrate make up for water that might be still in the system.


You'll be happy with the change.
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[QUOTE=Dutch Star Don;2344851]"smoker"....I think you're getting some bad info. If you look at the post with the link to Freightliner, it's from 2006. Since then and especially now, ALL new coaches use OAT Coolant (Organic Acid Technology). It doesn't require any checking of SCA's or DCA's. It's pretty much replace and forget.



Why do you say "bad info." Don, I re-read the link I posted for Smoker, and thought it was very informative, From 2006? what does that matter? Smoker has a 1999 Cummins(ISC?) and has not made the change over as of yet.......he still tests his coolant "yearly" as I do. If one wants to spend the money to change over and feels they will benefit from the change over........All's well, I chose the inexpensive test strips, no SCA added in years..........since new radiator was installed. With all the things to maintenance yearly, testing the coolant does not take to much to do. To change mine over to ELC, cost was double the normal antifreeze. I have also read where if one does the change over, in time, the test still needs to be done as the SCA levels can be depleted over time...... and need to be checked.........Interesting???, post #4 here Engine Coolant: SCA (Have you checked lately?)
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Hi smoker,
I'm with Dutch Star Don. The bottom line is:
1. Green if you want to do an SCA test every year.
2. Green if you want to change the coolant every 3 years.
3. OAT coolant (another color besides green) pinkish/red is what I have (Final Charge). If you want to change the coolant every 6 years.

I went from Green to OAT in 08. Just change the coolant again in 14. For me it is a no brainer. I'm trying to takes tasks off my maintenance list.

I know of no OAT coolant that is Green in color. If you have a Cummins ISB one need not check for SCA, but must still change Green coolant every 3 years.
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Thanks to everyone who has had input on this, I think that I will just change the filter every year and have it check, that should take care of the SCA, as I understand the filter I use contains the SCA'S needed.

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Some reading: http://www.buswest.com/pdfs/Cummins%...20bulletin.pdf
And : http://www.constructionequipment.com...engine-coolant

Smoker, there are two filers, one with SCA in it, and one without it. If your test strip results show your level is good, the filter without is going to be put on......if test show the SCA level a bit low.......put the filter w/SCA on. Do you have a ISC engine?


I hope the folk's using the "Maintenance free" coolant are still checking the SCA levels in it.......in the needed engine's.
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"palehorse89".....I'm not trying to argue with you and if you like using the old style coolant fine. From 2006 yes.....that's when the technology changed! You just won't find it in new coaches.....that has to tell you something. Your post above is exactly why people change, why mess with SCA's and which filter to use. Add a blank and convert to OAT.
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"palehorse89".....I'm not trying to argue with you and if you like using the old style coolant fine. From 2006 yes.....that's when the technology changed! You just won't find it in new coaches.....that has to tell you something. Your post above is exactly why people change, why mess with SCA's and which filter to use. Add a blank and convert to OAT.
With the new coolants Don, the SCA levels are high(when made) so as to make the run to change time intervals. Cummins still requires/suggests the SCA levels to be checked with the test strips. The SCA in new coolant can/will dissipate/weaken from use. If one chooses not to take the time to check the SCA level in their engine that require SCA........OK.
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Smoker, call Cummins they should give you the correct information. I have a sticker on my Cummins that says "Extended Life, Do Not Add Supplemental Coolant Additives."
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