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Old 01-30-2016, 08:46 PM   #15
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We should probably look at that. We've seen some Holiday Ramblers we liked a lot and your answer sounds pretty similar to what we would like to do. When we travel we do use the galley space and we load the refer often. I have some thinking to do when comparing all of these.
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Old 01-30-2016, 08:56 PM   #16
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We have the Newmar with the half bath and the pivoting door. I'm 6'2" 300 pounds and really don't have an issue using the 1/2 bath while underway. On my model, the tight fit is the refer. The only time it can be an issue is loading the refer with groceries while the coach is closed up. My wife can open and load it easily, but due to my girth, it's tough to open both doors without stepping to one side.

Like everything else, there is always give and take. Since we don't go in and out of the refer that often while the coach is closed, it's not a big deal. Keep in mind, the trade off is a very deep full wall slide tha really opens the room up when open.
Thanks Don. Yes we like the Newmar brand a lot. Like you say there are tradeoffs.
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Old 01-30-2016, 08:57 PM   #17
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Holiday Rambler has the 1/2 bath figured out. Mine has full access as the door opens all the way and is opposite my entry door and the fridge opens all the way too
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Old 01-30-2016, 09:44 PM   #18
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No issues with either fridge or 1/2 bath on our coach. I'm 6'4" 240lbs. See signature.
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Old 01-31-2016, 09:26 AM   #19
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The holiday rambler gas coaches are duplicates of the Fleetwood. They come down the same line, same floor plans for the most part. They change the name, interior fabrics and a few other things. Basically same deal as a firebird vs a Camaro. I think its the same for their DP's too.
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Old 01-31-2016, 01:26 PM   #20
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I suspected that would happen. So I suppose Monaco is the same way since they were purchased by the same company.

Funny thing...when you google Fleetwood, HR and Monaco they all have the same address....
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We are upgrading to a DP in about a year, so the planning has begun. We are down to either Entegra or Newmar. The way the door swings in the half bath is definitely one of my concerns with the Newmar.
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Old 02-02-2016, 10:24 PM   #22
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Brian we should talk. We've been looking at all of them and narrowed down to Winnebago or Entegra but probably Winnebago. This door thing is the only reason to skip Newmar. Rather than mess up my own thread by going off topic, we should compare notes.

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We have the Newmar Canyon Star and our half bath door is on a hinge and works just like any other door. Plenty of room to open all the way when the slide is in and not an issue.
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Bill, check Winnie. Read up on Lippert slide systems that come on many W models. You dont want to go there. Be sure it Powergear products. Not just my opinion!
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Brian we should talk. We've been looking at all of them and narrowed down to Winnebago or Entegra but probably Winnebago. This door thing is the only reason to skip Newmar. Rather than mess up my own thread by going off topic, we should compare notes.

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We are holding a Expo right now and the PDI department is slammed meaning I don't get home until 10 at night. Will try to call you next week.

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I guess I should hold off commenting until I have some experience with the pivoting door in the bath of our yet to be delivered unit. And I understand if one is paying many hundreds of thousands of dollars they should get what they want. But I just can't see a bathroom door being a showstopper unless it causes the bathroom not to be usable. A bad bathroom yes, crummy floorplan yes, but a door...
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I guess I should hold off commenting until I have some experience with the pivoting door in the bath of our yet to be delivered unit. And I understand if one is paying many hundreds of thousands of dollars they should get what they want. But I just can't see a bathroom door being a showstopper unless it causes the bathroom not to be usable. A bad bathroom yes, crummy floorplan yes, but a door...
You took the words right out of my mouth. When I was shopping and test drive a 2015 DSDP 4369, I thought the door was innovative and intelligent. The 4369 is my favorite floor plan of any I have seen, on any brand. I didn't buy one but it certainly was not because of the bathroom door.
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Yes, you guys are correct that a door might be a correctable problem...but we couldn't figure out how to change it. We did see one in a demo that seemed damaged due to being too fragile I guess. Also as mentioned elsewhere the door and the fridge both were difficult to access with slides in. That may not be as important to some as it is to us. We move from location to location a lot and use the MH in travel mode. What was the real clincher was that the half bath was small and you had to position yourself carefully just to get the half door closed because it pivoted "in" to the space. So all of that, given other things being equal made Newmar iffy.

Some features only in the Winnies made it jump ahead.

Cliff, I heard there were problems but didn't know the things to look for. Thanks for the input!
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