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Old 06-30-2014, 04:33 PM   #15
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I have a 1997 American Dream with a Gillig chassis.

My front end seems to float to much and in a dip sometimes bottoms out.


Not sure that makes sense?
Why not just have the front shocks adjusted?

That way you are realizing the benefit of the adjustable shock and perhaps fixing your floating and rebound issues for a 1 hour labor charge.

I have the Gillig chassis and Koni adjustables, but have found no reason to have them adjusted yet with 95,000 miles.
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Why not just have the front shocks adjusted?

That way you are realizing the benefit of the adjustable shock and perhaps fixing your floating and rebound issues for a 1 hour labor charge.

I have the Gillig chassis and Koni adjustables, but have found no reason to have them adjusted yet with 95,000 miles.
That is the plan, an hour of labor a side, if that does not work then new ones will be ordered
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I have a 1997 American Dream with a Gillig chassis.

My front end seems to float to much and in a dip sometimes bottoms out.

I was going to have the front shocks replaced at Camping World but was told that they are Koni adjustable shocks, they want $300.00 each and an hour a side to put them in.

Had a big fight with Camping World over some brakes that were repaired incorrectly, (CW Brake Repair) fought the battle and got a total refund off $1,700.
Just ordered the correct shocks from Gillig for $189.00 each, and a local spring shop will install both for one hour labor.

Part number for a 1997 American Dream is KONI part # is 88-1458SP2.

They cannot be drop shipped when ordered through Gillig, so they have to go from Kentucky to California to New York, Four weeks shipping time.
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I'd take a close look at the front suspension in general before deciding on new shocks, even though your symptoms are both things that worn shocks can cause. What you describe as floating makes me think there is more to it than shocks, though. Other components may be loose or worn, bushings may be worn or even gone, tie rods bad, etc. A good front end shop, e.g. Henderson's Line-up (Grants Pass, OR) or Eric's RV (Sequim, WA) or Josams (Orlando, FL) could diagnose it for you and make the proper repairs. Or even just a local truck & bus chassis shop - most cities have them. Chances are the reapirs would include shocks on a '97 anyway, though, unless it is very low mileage.
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I'd take a close look at the front suspension in general before deciding on new shocks, even though your symptoms are both things that worn shocks can cause. What you describe as floating makes me think there is more to it than shocks, though. Other components may be loose or worn, bushings may be worn or even gone, tie rods bad, etc. A good front end shop, e.g. Henderson's Line-up (Grants Pass, OR) or Eric's RV (Sequim, WA) or Josams (Orlando, FL) could diagnose it for you and make the proper repairs. Or even just a local truck & bus chassis shop - most cities have them. Chances are the reapirs would include shocks on a '97 anyway, though, unless it is very low mileage.
65,000 when purchased, 85,000 now, steering is nice an tight, new air bags have been installed, I have not inspected the bushings.

By floating, I mean up and down, not side to side.

When I step out of the MH air gets released from the air bags (auto level).

It should not raise that quickly if the shocks were good. I can also "bounce check the shocks" in the front end by hand.
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Glenn,
If the front end bottoms out, you may need your ride height checked. If you can "bounce the chocks by hand", they could be worn out, or need to be adjusted. When Country Coach renovated my Gillig chassis last year, they had to replace a number of rubber bushings, including the bushings in the front shocks, which were otherwise OK. Your chassis is probably very similar to mine, if not identical. Konis are easy to adjust, so you can try that first, but you may also want to check the rubber components on your chassis.
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If the front end bottoms out, you may need your ride height checked. If you can "bounce the chocks by hand", they could be worn out, or need to be adjusted. When Country Coach renovated my Gillig chassis last year, they had to replace a number of rubber bushings, including the bushings in the front shocks, which were otherwise OK. Your chassis is probably very similar to mine, if not identical. Konis are easy to adjust, so you can try that first, but you may also want to check the rubber components on your chassis.
Shocks are already ordered and paid for (they will have new rubber bushings). They will go in.

I will examine the spring rubber bushings, what other rubber components are there?
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Your sway bar will have rubber bushings as well. They had to replace the sway bar shackle on mine.
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Sometime it is easier to let the plumber do the plumbing and the drummer do the drumming, other words, find some one in the know and leave the problem in the hands of the expert.

Everyone is not the DIY type and cost becomes more than the job is worth.

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Sometime it is easier to let the plumber do the plumbing and the drummer do the drumming, other words, find some one in the know and leave the problem in the hands of the expert.

Everyone is not the DIY type and cost becomes more than the job is worth.

I really tried to find someone to do the work, I did not want to, was willing to pay good money to have some one do it for me, made three attempts at would you would think were good shops and all three failed miserably.

I would like to say more on this subject, but feel that it would just sound like sour grapes.
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I don't know about the Gillig chassis, but later Dreams (1999-2002) on the Spartan chassis were notorious for needing new tie rod ends and other wheel-end components. Any decent truck chassis shop (not RV dealer) should be able to check it out, so I'm surprised you had trouble getting repairs.

What part of the country are you in?
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I don't know about the Gillig chassis, but later Dreams (1999-2002) on the Spartan chassis were notorious for needing new tie rod ends and other wheel-end components. Any decent truck chassis shop (not RV dealer) should be able to check it out, so I'm surprised you had trouble getting repairs.

What part of the country are you in?
Motor Home does not wonder, steering is tight, it is the suspension that is soft.

I live in Rochester, NY

I have been to Coway Truck and Bus, terrible.

Caledonia RV, personal very personable, but they seemed unable to get things fixed, returned 5 times on the generator, it was removed twice (at my expense) and it still leaks.

Camping World, brakes, so bad I got a total refund.
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Glenn,
Have you called Gillig to see if they have a recommended repair place for your chassis?
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Have you called Gillig to see if they have a recommended repair place for your chassis?
Yes, Rochester Transit Authority uses there buses exclusively, but do their own repairs in house, there is not repair center in Rochester
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