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Old 04-26-2014, 11:54 AM   #15
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Lets play this:
You buy a tire from Fred and take it to Al to install. You go out and have a disaster because of that tire. You go to Fred and tell him he sold you a bad tire, he says no it was damaged during installation. Yo go to Al and Al says no way!

What happens now?
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Old 04-26-2014, 06:59 PM   #16
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I found a commercial tire place to that will do both for a decent price.
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Old 04-27-2014, 01:25 PM   #17
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its not hard to mount them your self with the rigth tire tools and take them in to have them balanced costs alot less

thats what i do
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Old 04-27-2014, 01:57 PM   #18
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the only thing about the bring your own steak argument that doesn't hold is the steak house doesn't charge you for the steak and then another price to cook it.
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Old 04-27-2014, 02:40 PM   #19
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Lets play this:
You buy a tire from Fred and take it to Al to install. You go out and have a disaster because of that tire. You go to Fred and tell him he sold you a bad tire, he says no it was damaged during installation. Yo go to Al and Al says no way!

What happens now?
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That's good point!

BTW, the same is true of RVs.
Far to often the coach builder points his finger at the chassis maker, the chassis maker points back at the coach builder, and the customer is left to wonder: "What happens now?".
I believe that's called a "Mexican Stand Off", (no disrespect intended to our neighbors to the south).

IMO "The customer is seldom right", has long been the motto of most RV companies and dealers.

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Old 04-27-2014, 06:39 PM   #20
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the only thing about the bring your own steak argument that doesn't hold is the steak house doesn't charge you for the steak and then another price to cook it.
You really just didnt' say that, you need to do some research on business.
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You must dine at different places than I do because I've never seen the steak listed for $15 and then just below it "cooked and served $5". Please post up a pic of the menu's you get

A lot of businesses, including my own, don't mind installing customer supplied parts. This way if their part fails I don't have to eat the cost of labor doing it again under warranty for free. Sure when we supply the parts we make a mark up on the cost. It doesn't bug me one bit when the car leaves to know if the part fails I won't be working on it for free under warranty in the future.

Also could you add a couple of linqs on where I can do some research on business. I would feel silly knowing I had started my own business at 23 with no help or financial aid from anyone, and ran these last 2 and a half decades, only to find out I was doing it wrong all these years. I'll give them a once over when I retire
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You must dine at different places than I do because I've never seen the steak listed for $15 and then just below it "cooked and served $5". Please post up a pic of the menu's you get

A lot of businesses, including my own, don't mind installing customer supplied parts. This way if their part fails I don't have to eat the cost of labor doing it again under warranty for free. Sure when we supply the parts we make a mark up on the cost. It doesn't bug me one bit when the car leaves to know if the part fails I won't be working on it for free under warranty in the future.

Also could you add a couple of linqs on where I can do some research on business. I would feel silly knowing I had started my own business at 23 with no help or financial aid from anyone, and ran these last 2 and a half decades, only to find out I was doing it wrong all these years. I'll give them a once over when I retire
I can buy steak at the meat market for 6 bucks see my point.

Many businesses run for 25 plus years all while doing it wrong.

It is simple math but you have to sit down and calculate all your overhead in to every job, and you must bill for every thing you purchase and install.

You probably include free valve stems, that you bought and paid for when you mount tires.

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You must dine at different places than I do because I've never seen the steak listed for $15 and then just below it "cooked and served $5". Please post up a pic of the menu's you get

A lot of businesses, including my own, don't mind installing customer supplied parts. This way if their part fails I don't have to eat the cost of labor doing it again under warranty for free. Sure when we supply the parts we make a mark up on the cost. It doesn't bug me one bit when the car leaves to know if the part fails I won't be working on it for free under warranty in the future.

Also could you add a couple of linqs on where I can do some research on business. I would feel silly knowing I had started my own business at 23 with no help or financial aid from anyone, and ran these last 2 and a half decades, only to find out I was doing it wrong all these years. I'll give them a once over when I retire
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I can buy steak at the meat market for 6 bucks see my point.

Many businesses run for 25 plus years all while doing it wrong.

It is simple math but you have to sit down and calculate all your overhead in to every job, and you must bill for every thing you purchase and install.

You probably include free valve stems, that you bought and paid for when you mount tires.

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Lets play this:
You buy a tire from Fred and take it to Al to install. You go out and have a disaster because of that tire. You go to Fred and tell him he sold you a bad tire, he says no it was damaged during installation. Yo go to Al and Al says no way!

What happens now?
I don't know about anyone else, but I've never been offered any kind of hazard guarantee on any 22.5 RV tire for free or fee. AFAIK, it doesn't exist...maybe somewhere.

If Camping World wants to conduct their service department in that manner, so be it. Personally, I don't have the confidence to let them touch anything as important as RV tires anyway. If there is ANY guarantee offered, it will come from the tire manufacturer, not CW. Apparently, they just do not want the profit from mounting and balancing tires without the additional profit from the tire sales...their prerogative.
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...Every bring a steak to a restaurant to have it cooked?...


Ted.
Friendly Fisherman Restaurant, Madeira Beach, FL. Go deep sea fishing from the pass, the crew cleans your fish on the way in and puts it in a bag. You go ashore and go upstairs to that restaurant, get seated and hand the waiter your bag and for $4.95 they will cook it and make a meal of it.

...but they won't mount your tires.

I'm just sayin'.
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Thumbs down CW valve extenders leaked

QUOTE=ga traveler;2024877]If you are installing 19.5 tires on steel rims, I would advise you to install long valve stems and do away with the leak prone extender hoses.[/QUOTE]

Well said. If you are thinking of valve extenders, stop.

Have metal long stem valves installed instead.

Had CW install a set of airless extenders and 3 days later had to get tire serviced on I75 in Ohio.
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