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Old 12-29-2010, 07:19 PM   #29
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The following is the answer to the question: “How much water is given off when burning one gallon of propane.”


Propane is C3H8. Molar mass is about 44g. Water is H2O, at 18g. So, 4 * 18 / 44 = 1.6x. Thus, about 1.6lb of water per lb of propane. Density of liquid is 0.507, vs. 1 for water. 1.6*.507 = 0.81 gal water per gallon of propane.
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There is no water in propane. Period It's the water vapor in the air as it goes thru combustion.

I give up. believe what ever you believe. I'm done.how anybody can think a gallon of propane is over 20% water is unbelievable. propane only weights 4lbs / gal.

WATER VAPOR IS THE BYPRODUCT.
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You shouldn't wear out a heatpump. It's worse to leave them sit.
My air conditioners work for 9 to 10 months a year, I look at it as I'm giving them a rest until next year.
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There is no water in propane. Period It's the water vapor in the air as it goes thru combustion.

I give up. believe what ever you believe. I'm done.how anybody can think a gallon of propane is over 20% water is unbelievable. propane only weights 4lbs / gal.

WATER VAPOR IS THE BYPRODUCT.
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You really need to read my post. The question was: “How much water is given off when burning one gallon of propane.” If the propane is being burned then water is the byproduct. There is no water IN propane. So we agree!! What I find interesting is based on TXiceman's equation there is NO carbon monoxide given off as a by product due to complete burning. That's probably why they use propane forklifts in warehouses.
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Old 12-30-2010, 09:03 AM   #34
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If it is below 30 for more than a few hours per day, then it's time for me to go somewhere warmer.
That's what I thought until it hit 18º a couple of nights ago here in central Florida. Brrrrrrrrr.
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That's what I thought until it hit 18º a couple of nights ago here in central Florida. Brrrrrrrrr.
I was watching the TV this morning and even the Manatees are taking a beating. A couple of hundred have perished in the cold waters.
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This is a little off topic but actually they don't recommend using propane forklifts in warehouses, unless it's a really drafty warehouse. Electric forklifts are used in modern warehouses.

We like using portable heaters in our motorhome to save lp for when it's really cold outside. We have heatpumps too but they are very noisy compared to the portables-ours are radiant heaters, so they are very quiet with no fans to make noise.

We don't worry about which one is more economical since where we camp the electric is included with the site and not metered separately.
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Propane or heatpump. Neither one can compare to the Hydro Hot for comfort and noise. Even though it gases your neighbor.


1 gal diesel=130,000 BTU's
1 gal propane=90,000BTU's Probably from all the water HA HA
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I stand corrected on propane "containing" water-- I'm no scientist, and I intrepreted what I've read wrong-- So in essence, the "ash" from burning propane is water-- yes? And for every gallon of propane you burn, there's .8 gallons of "ash" (which is 40% of the gallon of propane burned)-- that's a lot of ******* water, regardless of where it comes from.
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That's what I thought until it hit 18º a couple of nights ago here in central Florida. Brrrrrrrrr.
Paz, you must be in the Ocala/Gainsville area. I have a buddy in Gainsville who report such a temperature. I'm about 250 miles south of there and it was still 34 degrees. But that's better than 18!
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That's what I thought until it hit 18º a couple of nights ago here in central Florida. Brrrrrrrrr.
Only had a low of 33º in this SE part of Florida between 7-7:15AM on Dec.28.
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Paz, you must be in the Ocala/Gainsville area. I have a buddy in Gainsville who report such a temperature. I'm about 250 miles south of there and it was still 34 degrees. But that's better than 18!
The 18º was in Bushnell, one of the coldest places in Florida outside the panhandle that night. Bushnell is southeast of The Villages, not far from Gainesville and Ocala.

We went north for Christmas in the toad and left the moho in the campground. Fortunately, we left a key, and a neighbor in the campground turned our furnace on for us to keep the pipes from freezing. The owners of a 5th wheel a couple of sites down from us didn't leave a key, and they suffered some freeze damage to their pipes.
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This is a little off topic but actually they don't recommend using propane forklifts in warehouses, unless it's a really drafty warehouse. Electric forklifts are used in modern warehouses.

We like using portable heaters in our motorhome to save lp for when it's really cold outside. We have heatpumps too but they are very noisy compared to the portables-ours are radiant heaters, so they are very quiet with no fans to make noise.

We don't worry about which one is more economical since where we camp the electric is included with the site and not metered separately.
"They" may want to retract that statement. Only spent 15 years in the forklift business, but I'd take on that challenge in a heartbeat...!
The paybacks or recomendations are not focused on fuel sources alone, however alternate fuel sources and their benefits are discussed in great detail today of which there are many. Don't get me started but product movements per hour is the name of the game in that world. SORRY, off topic I know but needed to nip that one in the bud. Couldn't resist.

We use portables and heat pumps both as well.....
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