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Old 11-27-2014, 01:53 PM   #57
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IMO sounds like the exhaust brake is sticking. More than likely hasn't been lubed at the hindge and slave cylinder points in a while. Happend to me twice last summer. I also replaced the Solenoid because I thought it might be sticking and not releasing the air pressure.
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Old 11-27-2014, 05:13 PM   #58
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IMO sounds like the exhaust brake is sticking. More than likely hasn't been lubed at the hindge and slave cylinder points in a while. Happend to me twice last summer. I also replaced the Solenoid because I thought it might be sticking and not releasing the air pressure.
He has the Itasca Horizon which generally came with a 400 hp Cummins ISL with compression (Jake) brake, not the exhaust brake used on the smaller engines.
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Old 11-27-2014, 06:05 PM   #59
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Sad to see people being convincingly worried about old MH needing maintenance. I bought a 2000 Allegro Bay a few years ago and although I have indeed tinkered a bit, there was no need for me to be a mechanic to take good care of it. Some folks are on a budget, let's not just scare them all off because the coach isn't as new as yours. Yes some older Motor Homes can be a project, but not all are.
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Old 11-27-2014, 06:13 PM   #61
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That fuel may have been sitting in there for a while. Try the cheapest fix first, fuel biocides Biofure, and stabil. Refill and use biocides.
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Sad to see people being convincingly worried about old MH needing maintenance. I bought a 2000 Allegro Bay a few years ago and although I have indeed tinkered a bit, there was no need for me to be a mechanic to take good care of it. Some folks are on a budget, let's not just scare them all off because the coach isn't as new as yours. Yes some older Motor Homes can be a project, but not all are.
Agree, nothing than any pickup pulling an RV. You have the mechanical side and the RV side.

The difference is in the size of the mecanical components, beside the motor and the RV portion, which is not much different, you need big tools to work on it. If you are not well equiped, you should go to a reputable independent truck repair shop. This is what one suggested to me, he owns big truck and says that the dealership like Kenworth, Mac, so on, charges an arm and a leg to work on these and they see you comming.

Not all shops are honest people, first and first, they want your money, garage are not the most reputable business and truck or RV shops are no different. Be aware, ask questions, and when in doubt just walk out and go somewhere else.
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That fuel may have been sitting in there for a while. Try the cheapest fix first, fuel biocides Biofure, and stabil. Refill and use biocides.
The turbo pressure problem started right after I fueled up at a Loves truck stop. Could I have gotten bad fuel or the wrong fuel if that's possible?

As I limped home there were times when the pressure gauge showed pressure but it was low. It seemed to come and go.

Someone else on IRV2 had a similar problem and it turned out to be a inexpensive turbo pressure sensor. So, I'm going open up the engine compartment and take a look.

Getting to the engine is not as simple as I thought. I can't figure out how to remove the floor panels so I can get to the top engine cover. Hmmm.

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He has the Itasca Horizon which generally came with a 400 hp Cummins ISL with compression (Jake) brake, not the exhaust brake used on the smaller engines.
Yes, our Horizon has the 400HP Cummins ISL.
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We purchased an 02 Journey DL a year and a half ago. The price was great and we expected to replace some of the systems. So far not too much.

We replaced all the tires. The TVs had already been replaced with flat screens. We replaced the satellite system with a new Winegard. We rebuilt the Washer/dyer. We had the Heat Pump inspected, it was okay.

That's about it for us. We are quite happy with the unit and have traveled quite a bit with it.'

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The turbo pressure problem started right after I fueled up at a Loves truck stop. Could I have gotten bad fuel or the wrong fuel if that's possible?

As I limped home there were times when the pressure gauge showed pressure but it was low. It seemed to come and go.

Someone else on IRV2 had a similar problem and it turned out to be a inexpensive turbo pressure sensor. So, I'm going open up the engine compartment and take a look.

Getting to the engine is not as simple as I thought. I can't figure out how to remove the floor panels so I can get to the top engine cover. Hmmm.



Yes, our Horizon has the 400HP Cummins ISL.
If you think it may be associated with your fuel stop, try changing all the fuel filters (they are probably due for change anyway).
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The turbo pressure problem started right after I fueled up at a Loves truck stop. Could I have gotten bad fuel or the wrong fuel if that's possible?

As I limped home there were times when the pressure gauge showed pressure but it was low. It seemed to come and go.

Someone else on IRV2 had a similar problem and it turned out to be a inexpensive turbo pressure sensor. So, I'm going open up the engine compartment and take a look.

Getting to the engine is not as simple as I thought. I can't figure out how to remove the floor panels so I can get to the top engine cover. Hmmm.



Yes, our Horizon has the 400HP Cummins ISL.

Agree with the recommendation to change the fuel filter/s as a first step. Still curious if you spoke to the dealer and what they agreed to do, if anything. Did they at least do minimal service on the coach before you took delivery.... oil and filter, fuel filters?

Strongly suggest you take it to a good shop (Cummins Coach Care perhaps) and get a full service.... oil, filter, fuel filters, air dryer service, air cleaner filter, chassis lube, tranny oil and filters, genset service, rear differential lube change. If it has the original engine coolant, it will be due for a cooling system drain, flush and refill with new coolant. If you get this stuff done, you will know it has been done and all is well. Expect to spend $1,500 - $2,000 to get these critical chassis items done.
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Strongly suggest you take it to a good shop (Cummins Coach Care perhaps) and get a full service....
I agree. I want to set a baseline for future service so I plan to have the Freightliner service center in Montgomery, AL perform a complete service and inspection in the next couple of weeks and they can fix whatever the Turbo pressure problem at that time.

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Still curious if you spoke to the dealer and what they agreed to do, if anything.
The dealer told me they serviced the rig and I believed them. My mistake. If they did, they didn't change any of the filters.

So far, the dealerships response is "use your extended warranty"
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Jerry, Is this a MH that was purchased at Buddy Gregg in Tennessee? I did see a link to some photos of the coach and it was from Buddy Gregg.


Anything you do or have done make sure you keep excellent records, have whom ever you deal with at Freightliner put it all on the service record. It would be interesting if they pull fluids they can tell about how old the oil and fluids are. I"d just be real mad if they want you to use the extended warranty ... if that is what ends up happening I"d go to the dealer sit down with the owner and tell him the extended warranty just saved the dealer lots of money and I'd tell them you want a 100% repayment of the extended warranty and any deductible used on it...

From what i read here, I"d be camping out side the office of the dealer with lots of details whole ordeal to pass out to other potential customers!
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Jerry, Is this a MH that was purchased at Buddy Gregg in Tennessee? I did see a link to some photos of the coach and it was from Buddy Gregg.
Yes sir. That's the one. I know that I purchased a pre-owned MH and that is why I purchased a very expensive extended warranty. However, it just not right to expect a customer to use the extended warranty to pay for a repair like this one that failed after delivery less than 50 miles from the dealership.

The salesman said "use your extended warranty" but referred me to the service manager and that was late the day before Thanksgiving. I am still waiting for the service manager to respond. Hopefully, they'll come through for me.
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Yes sir. That's the one. I know that I purchased a pre-owned MH and that is why I purchased a very expensive extended warranty. However, it just not right to expect a customer to use the extended warranty to pay for a repair like this one that failed after delivery less than 50 miles from the dealership.



The salesman said "use your extended warranty" but referred me to the service manager and that was late the day before Thanksgiving. I am still waiting for the service manager to respond. Hopefully, they'll come through for me.

I really hope they do something for you. My wife and I lived about 3 miles north of Buddy's for the last 7 years we owned a S&Bs and purchased 2 motorhomes during that time. We never seriously considered buying there. The good news is that you bought a quality used coach and don't have to look to BG for anything in the future.


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