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Old 09-10-2015, 07:22 AM   #1
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help on pricing strategy

Want to buy a 2016 Tiffin Motorhome Allegro Red 37 PA. They have dropped the price 21% off the MSRP plus giving us a good trade-in on our trailer. Asking for opinions on the discount...not sure or should I keep looking?
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Old 09-10-2015, 07:27 AM   #2
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I've not shopped around for that particular coach, but that seems like a reasonable, but not incredible deal. If it weren't for your trade-in, I'd push hard for 30% off MSRP, but having a trade-in complicates matters so maybe 21% is pretty good?

I'm pretty stingy with my money though. I got a great deal on my current coach, but I was willing to buy a new RV that sat on a dealer's lot for almost a full year. And I was willing to drive 18 hours to get it!

Good luck!!
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Even when they drop the price 21% and are giving a good deal they are still making money. Of course they have to make $$$$ or they won't stay in business. How much they make is dependent on you the buyer. If you suggest 30% of MSRP and they counter with 25% that's better. If they stick to their guns then you're out nothing and you tried. Or you could walk away.

We got 30% off MSRP and they gave us a good deal on our TT. After we took them the TT and signed the paper for the build to begin they put our TT up for sale on their web sight. They sold it for $5,000 less than they paid us.

The TT we traded was only 1-year old. They paid off what we owed the finance company. So I know all the figures and they couldn't cheat the finance company.

That should tell you something about how much $$$$$ is actually hidden in these deals. Our coach was not a high end coach either. We got it for a little over $100,000. That's not high end. I'm assuming with a higher end coach there's more wiggle room.

You can get a better deal. Make them a counter offer or walk away from the deal. You can also ask for some upgrades that are currently not on the coach. Dealers will do that because if an upgrade lists for $3,000 it may only cost them $1,800 to actually do it. So they are getting a better deal and so are you. It would cost you the $3,000 if you had it done after the fact.

I just looked that coach up on line. That's a very nice coach. I looked at 3-4 and most are showing prices of around $260,000 to $270,000. These were all 2016 and I only looked for about 3-4 minutes.

Best of luck with your search and do let us know how it turns out.

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The only way to KNOW what's going on is to separate the trade from the purchase. When I shop for any vehicle, that included our RV, I insisted on seeing the wholesale trade value (what they are actually paying you for it - they are not giving you retail) and will negotiate a percentage off on the new purchase. The standard, for decades, has been to split the discount adding part of it to what they are really paying for your trade to make it seem more generous while still showing a discount on the purchase.

30% on dealer stock may be a bit optimistic, although if negotiating on a 2015 it may be very doable.
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A "good trade-in" is part of the discount, so you are probably doing fine.

Your trade is worth only its wholesale value, a number that is probably shockingly low, so the dealer pads it with some of the "discount" to make it look like a better deal. If you can get the actual wholesale value of your rig, you could calculate the discount from MSRP. Or you can rough guestimate the wholesale as about 60% of the Average Retail shown in the online NADA RV guide.
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Thanks so much for all the advice. I actually got the dealer to give me 24% and the trade-in was really good. Feel happy and can't wait to go traveling in my new rig! Your comments gave me confidence to get a better deal! See you on the road and thanks again! 😋
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Thanks so much for all the advice. I actually got the dealer to give me 24% and the trade-in was really good. Feel happy and can't wait to go traveling in my new rig! Your comments gave me confidence to get a better deal! See you on the road and thanks again! 😋

Good to hear it! For what it's worth, Motor Home Specialist in Alvarado, TX is known to have some of the best deals around, and they advertise 25% off MSRP for most of their new inventory. Sometimes you can do better, but then not so much with a good trade-in.

Sounds like you struck a good bargain!!

Have fun moving the stuff into the new RV!! This is an opportunity to clear out the clutter that you forgot that you had been carrying around, and reorganize the stuff that you know you want to keep with you. Don't forget to pack a bottle of champagne to celebrate the first trip!!
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Thanks so much for all the advice. I actually got the dealer to give me 24% and the trade-in was really good. Feel happy and can't wait to go traveling in my new rig! Your comments gave me confidence to get a better deal! See you on the road and thanks again! 😋
Bamabago,
You got a good deal and a great coach. The 37PAs are extremely hard to find. That is what we were looking for. Could not be found here in MI.

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Time to update your signature now! Woot! Woot!!
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HAHA...you are exactly right! Thanks for the comment!
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30% off can be done. check nada on your trade. Most dealers want to be at 80% of nada wholesale value. if you can get 30% off msrp and 85% of nada your doing well.
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