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Old 12-29-2010, 08:37 AM   #1
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high flow oil filters

What is the advantage of an oversized oil filter? My coach has a Ford V-10 engine.
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Old 12-29-2010, 08:48 AM   #2
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My two cents worth or what ever it's worth
If the "micron" size of the filter element is proper
The pressure capacity is as good
There are no issues with a back flow valve
And to top it off if you have space for the larger filter

I see the advantage is that the bigger filter lets the system hold more oil which could run cooler.

I have been running the larger 2 qt WIX high quality filters for years with no issues on my Chevy 350ci and 8.1L engines.
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Thanks for the input. I will go with the larger filter at my next oil change.
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Do you have a number for the big filter for the V10?
The one on mine now looks like it belongs on a toyota!
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More than just holding more oil, it holds more dirt w/o opening the by-pass valve. You'd be surprised how many cars are running around with basically no filtering due to a clogged filter.
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Old 12-29-2010, 07:52 PM   #6
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high flow oil filters

Does anyone see any value to flushing the oil in the engine with new oil and then draining again and replacing with a new high flow filter and oil when you do an oil change?
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Not really... only if you have and excessive amount of dirt/sludge, and then it would be just a reduced change interval (like 1000 miles), not a 10 min 'flush'. remember, the detergents take time to work, and oil suspends the dirt to be removed, so simply filling/flushing would be a waste.
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Does anyone see any value to flushing the oil in the engine with new oil and then draining again and replacing with a new high flow filter and oil when you do an oil change?
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Does anyone see any value to flushing the oil in the engine with new oil and then draining again and replacing with a new high flow filter and oil when you do an oil change?
I'd have to cast a no vote also. The shorter interval idea would not hurt.
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More than just holding more oil, it holds more dirt w/o opening the by-pass valve. You'd be surprised how many cars are running around with basically no filtering due to a clogged filter.
Yes I would be surprised. Dirt ruins engines by scoring the bearing surfaces and cylinder walls among other thngs. If there was that much dirt in the engine it would be sitting by the road. Sludge usually kills the engine by stopping up the pickup of the oil pump and starving the engine of oil. Filters are smaller because engines and oils are better desgined. Fuel injection and tighter tolerances helps keep the engine oil cleaner. Engine oil contains less parafin and that reduces the "sludge" you saw in older engines. Also detergents and other additive keep that engine itself cleaner. A old engine or one that never has the oil change may clog a filter more likely it will stop up the pickup of the oil pump but installing a larger filter is not going to resolve the problem. A bigger filter that hold more oil cannot hur. Nothing replaces scheduled oil and filter changes.
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Do you have a number for the big filter for the V10?
The one on mine now looks like it belongs on a toyota!
NAPA 1087 gold.
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Do you have a number for the big filter for the V10?
The one on mine now looks like it belongs on a toyota!
Motor Home mag in Feb 2011 issue in Coach & Powertrain (pg 61) corrected the info given in the previous issue on large filters for the V10. They list Fleetguard LF3315, NAPA1087, Wix 51087 and FRAM PH3616. All of the filters have the correct pitch tread and O-ring that fits the V10.
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Yes I would be surprised. Dirt ruins engines by scoring the bearing surfaces and cylinder walls among other thngs. If there was that much dirt in the engine it would be sitting by the road. Sludge usually kills the engine by stopping up the pickup of the oil pump and starving the engine of oil. Filters are smaller because engines and oils are better desgined. Fuel injection and tighter tolerances helps keep the engine oil cleaner. Engine oil contains less parafin and that reduces the "sludge" you saw in older engines. Also detergents and other additive keep that engine itself cleaner. A old engine or one that never has the oil change may clog a filter more likely it will stop up the pickup of the oil pump but installing a larger filter is not going to resolve the problem. A bigger filter that hold more oil cannot hur. Nothing replaces scheduled oil and filter changes.
Like I said, 'You'd be surprised'
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If you were to go say to the NAPA 1087 gold filter is it necessary to add more oil and if so how much?
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