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Old 04-08-2016, 12:50 AM   #1
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Holiday Rambler lug nut covers

I just purchased a very nice 2004 Holiday Rambler Vacationer 36WDD on a Workhorse W-22 chassis equipped with Wheelmaster Stainless simulator wheel covers but at least a couple of the outer lug nut covers have been damaged so that the same socket does not fit them the same as all of the others. After the outers are removed the inners are all 1 5/16". They may be Metric but I currently don't have a socket that big except SAE. I have searched a number of websites and search engines but nothing I find is like what is on the coach. They do not appear to me to be covers only but more like assembled pressed on permanent items. My last coach had the push on type with the dimples on two sides so I know the difference. Can anyone direct me to a place to find the right ones? I can try to post a picture later if needed. I intend to do my own maintenance so I want to do it with good parts.
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You should be able to find lug nut covers at a "Big Truck" parts store like Fleetpride or Truck Pro. Good luck and keep us posted.
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I went to the Dicor web site and ordered a couple of replacements for my W24 chassis. Dicor is likely the original manufacturer.
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Old 04-12-2016, 07:13 PM   #5
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B-i-L's, 05 , W-22 chassis, the wheel nut socket was 33MM. and the wheel nut torque was 450 ft.lbs. So you'll need a torque multiplier, or 3/4 drive 600 ft/lb torque wrench, and an 18" extension for the rear.
His Tiffin had the Dicor , stainless wheel trim , with the dimpled covers.
I'd like to see a picture of your set up. because it sounds very different.
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The decorative lug nuts that I believe the OP is referencing are installed hand tight only. They don't hole the wheel in place, only the stainless cover.
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Here are pictures of one lug, the actual wheel simulator showing there are four that hold it on and the eight after the cover is removed.
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Hopefully, they went through this time.
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So , I take it from the pictures that the end of the cover retainer nuts are threaded inside and catch the exposed area of the wheel stud , then the tapered end centers the center cover to hold it in place.

Given the custom nature of the part , I'm thinking that the manufacturer may be the only source of replacements.
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My diplomat has the same setup. They are called jam nuts and are very hard to find the size you need are 33mm or that's what mine are. I had new front tires installed and the guys used an impact wrench on mine unbeknownst to me stripping some of them out. I dug around in a RV surplus shop in Redbay Al. and was able to find 10 of them. If you find a source please post.
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Yes, there are regular nuts pressed inside of the covers of 4 on each wheel to hold the simulator on. I think an impact wrench was used on two of them even though they don't require excessive torque to loosen or tighten them. I haven't checked any other wheels yet. I just wanted to see if I could change my own tires if necessary and check the brake pads since I only acquired this coach on March 9th. If I use a 5 ft. pipe over my 3/4" ratchet handle I can get them off and tighten back up. We go camping in areas where I can't just pull over and wait for road service to come out due to no shoulders. There is ample space for a spare under the rear of the chassis so I am designing a winch setup to lift and hold the tire up similar to a pick up. My old Pace Arrow Vision had a factory installed system like that so its not impossible if I engineer it right.
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If I use a 5 ft. pipe over my 3/4" ratchet handle I can get them off and tighten back up..

JMHO: Invest in a 3/4" breaker bar , I wouldn't trust a ratchet with a 5' pipe on it. Last thing you need to do is break the ratchet with 4 lug nuts off, on the side of the road somewhere.
When I did the front brakes on the B-in-L's 05, I hadn't bought the 3/4" torque wrench yet, I did have a 33mm 3/4" impact socket, adapted to 1/2" torque wrench and torqued to 150 ft.lbs then with the out side of the socket marked, every 1/6 of a turn on the outer edge ( opposite the socket points ) we marked the wheel opposite one mark on the socket then with the breaker and pipe tightened to the next mark on the socket. This provided an even tightness on the wheel and we drove to a truck tire facility and they checked with their torque wrench, all were good perhaps a little tight. When we did get the 3/4" drive torque wrench we went back and it took just under 500 ftlbs to loosen the lug nuts.

BTW; When you do find your replacement cover retainers , always use a 6 point socket on them , a 12 point will mess them up just as fast as an impact wrench.
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I do have a 3/4" breaker bar that came in the same set as the ratchet, but it doesn't look as sturdy at the joint where the socket attaches as the ratchet. I also like the fact of not having to remove and reposition the socket every revolution of the lug nut. I won't argue about a ratchet being better than a breaker bar though. After I get the spare tire mount resolved, I will look at getting a heavier breaker bar or torque multiplier.
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Good news to anybody needing these lug nuts! I went to Bontrager's RV Surplus in White Pigeon, MI while attending the Rally and they have a big box of them for, get this, $1.00 each! I don't know if they ship but if you're in that area look them up. They're just across the Indiana border from Elkhart and Shipshewanna. They have a website.See pics above.
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