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Old 10-09-2012, 06:58 PM   #29
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The wife is always right , even when she's not
You are correct tell her when she's right and keep your mouth shut when she not it make a quite relationship.
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Old 10-09-2012, 06:59 PM   #30
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The wife is always right , even when she's not
After years of marriage you'd THINK I'd know that by now

With restaurants - no problem
With clothes - no problem
With vacation destinations - no problem

But when it comes to liking one MH over another based upon a "color" well.....I'd just like to have something more concrete than that before making a major purchase.

Oh well, what was I thinking?

BTW - thanks for the Tiffin link....
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Old 10-09-2012, 08:42 PM   #31
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I don't want to muddy the waters, but our first 2 coaches were Tiffins, one an Allegro Bus, the worst coach we ever owned. Our last 2 coaches have been Fleetwoods, one a Discovery and the other, our curent Expedition. Both have been outstanding, no problems of any kind. Our experience, and that of many of our sfirneds with Fleetwood DPs has been excellent. Our friends with OPs, including Monaco, Holiday Rambler, Tohr have had all kinds of problems, many serious. The point of this is, all the current manufacturers make good and bad coaches in all their models.

An earlier poster knocked Freightliner and the Cummins ISBs. I personally wouldn't have any other. So, my advice is be careful how you interpret the information you're getting about specifics. We all have our biases, and they are based on our personal experioences. If you find some coaches, floorplans, etc. you both like, then find other users of that brand and model. There are may owner groups out there where you can get a better overall opinion of that brand by looking at the problems that are discussed. Keep in mind problems with appliances, engines, transmissions, chassis, ACs, furnaces,water heaters, etc. are common to all manufacturers because these are purchased from other manuufactures.

This of course, at 70 years of age, is just my opinion. Good luck on your search.
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Old 10-09-2012, 09:07 PM   #32
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Look at all the options on both. Discuss with DW about those and other options the 2 of you might like to add and hope the one the DW is still top in the running, or if the other has more options, that could be a swaying point.
But like said by others..... DW needs to be happy. Have her review the info provided by others who have similar units.
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Old 10-09-2012, 11:35 PM   #33
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Don't ignore the Airstream Landyacht series from from the 2000s up to 2007 or so. Airstream is well known for quality construction and components. Our newly acquired 2001 xc 360 has a Cat engine, solid oak cabinets, a 8kw diesel gen in a front slide, full awnings, and an overall highend build. It continues to impress.
We were in the same boat with a need for just the 2 of us and bought a 2005 Airstream Class A Landyacht 26ft in August. So far we love it. My wife zips it around, excellent quality and it gets in all the parks. There's not many around but if you get the chance I'd take a look at one.
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From many years of RVs and see what others have, two brands I would avoid are Thor and Damon. Their QC is all over the map and they tend to put on lots of glitz and bling, and nothing toward a structurally sound coach.

That is my 2 cents worth.

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Old 10-18-2012, 03:07 AM   #35
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... If you find some coaches, floorplans, etc. you both like, then find other users of that brand and model. There are many owner groups out there where you can get a better overall opinion of that brand by looking at the problems that are discussed...
You don't need to go "out there"! Right here on IRV2 just scroll down to the Owners forums - HUGE amount of info on the different manufacturers ...

Also, I have noticed that almost every floorplan is duplicated by almost every manufacturer ... so if you find a plan you love, check out the different brands ... you may find an almost identical layout from a builder you prefer.

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I have to throw a vote for Thor/Damon in for #3 spot. They're high level gas coaches and entry diesels are made with the same care as comparable Newmar models....using similar building techniques and materials.

That said, their low end coaches (Hurricane and similar, I'm talking about you guys here) are more on par with low-end Coachmens...and EVERYBODY knows what low-end Coachmens are all about. Those are not bad either, but they are what they are, "entry level"...so expect "entry leve"
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Old 11-02-2012, 06:34 PM   #37
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Rexhall

Don't overlook Rexhall a little know Rv manufacture. On their 40' pushers they use Spartan Chasis's, Cummins, Allison, HWH, Onan......all good stuff.
They have innovative designs and good phone customer support.
I've had two and would give them a good look on my next purchase.
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I would not own another golf stream if you gave it to me. What a pos.
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[QUOTE=Jon Mopar;1343414]I have to throw a vote for Thor/Damon in for #3 spot. They're high level gas coaches and entry diesels are made with the same care as comparable Newmar models....using similar building techniques and materials.

uh I dont agree.
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I have to throw a vote for Thor/Damon in for #3 spot. They're high level gas coaches and entry diesels are made with the same care as comparable Newmar models....using similar building techniques and materials.

uh I dont agree.

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There has been some changes in the RV world with mergers and such caused by the economy, so things are constantly changing.

Like Thor has acquired many other brands in the last few years including Damon and Airstream.

So, to generalize is going to be very hard to do. But I will add an opinion or few...Winnabago is a well built rig. In our shopping of used and new Class A's there was always an obvious quality to their rigs. gulf Stream was a very good motorhome...but now the only make towables...huh? Damon is a very good midgrade coach with lots of tech that used to only be on premium coaches.

I concur that you have to be a smart shopper...example, the Newmar (it is Newmar- not Newman) Canyon Star line offers a Class A toyhauler, the 3920. The Thor Outlaw (was Damon Outlaw) is a Toyhauler too. I have walked around both mfgts offering and except for the differences in floorplan (bedroom in the 3920 and loft in the Outlaw) the chassis are exactly the same and fit and finish are very similar...But the 3920 is set at a higher price.

So...shop around for the best price on a rig that you like. You, the owner being happy is really all that matters.

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I concur that you have to be a smart shopper...example, the Newmar (it is Newmar- not Newman) Canyon Star line offers a Class A toyhauler, the 3920. The Thor Outlaw (was Damon Outlaw) is a Toyhauler too. I have walked around both mfgts offering and except for the differences in floorplan (bedroom in the 3920 and loft in the Outlaw) the chassis are exactly the same and fit and finish are very similar...But the 3920 is set at a higher price.
Those floorplan differences are pretty big. Took the DW about 30 seconds to determine the Outlaw was not for her.

I can't speak to what Thor is doing with Damon now, but I would charactize the Damon Outlaw as an entry level coach, and the New Canyon Star as a mid-level. I own a Newmar '12 3920 now, and had a '97 Damon Daybreak before it.

Again, maybe Thor is doing things differently now, but I was always astonished by what I would find when I looked under cushions, behind drawers, etc. at how stuff was put togther on the Damon. It looked nice at first glance, but Damon seemed to believe that a wood screw was the right fastener for pretty much every situation. I was always filling stripped screw holes or putting in bolts to replace the wood screws.

Maybe the Newar will be the same in 12 years, but there are lots of subtle differents in build approach I see.

For example:the basement compartments on both are thin metal sheets. On the Damon, there was a frame around the door that the locks latched to, supported by the cabinet floor. On the Newmar, the door latch is on an L shaped piece of metal attached to the basement frame.

If you have a lot of weight in the basement, the door frame on the Damon would move, the latches would disengage, and the doors would fly open on the freeway. (Mostly in a driving rain, it seemed!) The Newmar frame isn't being supported by the basement floor, it won't move the same way even if you overload it.

I think it reflects the design approach taken by the two companies. The original Damon was focused on "value by design" - which seemed to be doing things the cheapest way that worked. Newmar seems to be a step up.

My dealer recently dropped the Thor line, citing more shortcuts like this still be taking in new coaches, so I would opt for the older Newmar over the newer Thor.
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