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Old 08-24-2013, 07:05 PM   #1
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How many miles is too many

In looking at under 35' DP's, most seem to have the Cummings 300hp engine with the Allison 2000mh Transmission. I'm wondering what kind of total mileage (talking life expectancy here not MPG) one might expect to get out of this combination. If buying a used MH and wanting to get good long use out of it, what would be your limit for miles already driven.
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Look for maintenance records, a properly maintained ISB/2000 combo should be good for 1/4 mill.
Any sign of a chip, engine mods, or no records , steer clear.
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Yep... what Skip said.

Maintenance is the name of the longevity game. If they have taken care of it and you take care of it it'll keep on tickin' for a very long time.

So, how many miles should be on the rig you choose is really a function of how old it is. I wouldn't get really optimistic about say a five year old rig with only 10K miles on it either. These guys like to be used.

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Old 08-24-2013, 08:24 PM   #4
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In looking at under 35' DP's, most seem to have the Cummings 300hp engine...
It's CUMMINS, not CUMMINGS! Aargh!
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In looking at under 35' DP's, most seem to have the Cummings 300hp engine with the Allison 2000mh Transmission. I'm wondering what kind of total mileage (talking life expectancy here not MPG) one might expect to get out of this combination. If buying a used MH and wanting to get good long use out of it, what would be your limit for miles already driven.
I traded a 2005 Fleetwood Excursion in with 100,000 miles in January. After fighting with dozens of dealers, I finally found one who had the big picture, when it comes to miles. To the others' credit, the marketplace doesn't understand the role of mileage in diesel rigs, either; so, one might say the argument is moot. In my case, the dealer already had my rig sold when we inked the deal.

A few days later, the salesman called to say they'd finally gotten around to seriously examining the Fleetwood, driving it. He offered me the job of Maintenance Manager at their dealership, over the phone! The guy said he'd never been in a used rig that drove like it was showroom new, was thrilled.

The moral to the story: a higher mileage rig that has had careful maintenance is far better than a low-mileage rig that has spent most of its life sitting. I speak from experience, having thus acquired a 5 year-old premium rig with very low miles; now, I'm paying a steep price for all that inactivity. Nonetheless, dealers and users alike persist in treating these things like cars, when it comes to mileage. For the most part, that is illogical.
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The same motors are running around the country pulling loads with a million miles on them. Use is better then sitting.
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Look for maintenance records, a properly maintained ISB/2000 combo should be good for 1/4 mill.
Any sign of a chip, engine mods, or no records , steer clear.
Having a Banks kit on an engine would be a plus as the kits are designed to work with the lowest rated portion of the drivetrain and not overstress it. On the Cummins units Banks worked directly with Allison and Cummins.
The chips I would certainly stay away from.
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It's CUMMINS, not CUMMINGS! Aargh!
If I wasn't a rookie, I wouldn't be ask'in the question!!!

Anyway, thanks for the input. Just tryin to get a feel for things. I'm not considering any particular rig at the moment as I will not buy until I am ready to live full time in it. Well, I am trying to figure out a particular style of rig, though I'm not there yet. Guess I will attend some RV shows when they come around to get an idea of what there is. I still have several other large projects to finish up at home and need my shop for that. The rig will be financed with part of the home sale proceeds. We currently have a class C that we use locally and will soon be extending our range in that, it's 7 years old and only has 8k miles on it. I gotta get busy!!!

So Maintenance, Maintenance, Maintenance!!!
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So Maintenance, Maintenance, Maintenance!!!

That is correct as long as it is backed by maintance records and owners manuals. If I ever sell mine, it will include all above. Take your time, look at RV's in your budget, get preapproval from bank or CU and stay out of the dealers F and I office. Just my thoughts. Most of all, enjoy!!
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So Maintenance, Maintenance, Maintenance!!!

That is correct as long as it is backed by maintance records and owners manuals. If I ever sell mine, it will include all above. Take your time, look at RV's in your budget, get preapproval from bank or CU and stay out of the dealers F and I office. Just my thoughts. Most of all, enjoy!!
Yeah, it'll be cash only after the sale of the homestead. Perhaps 2014?
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Yeah, it'll be cash only after the sale of the homestead. Perhaps 2014?
Be carefull and remember with interest rates the way they are now, money is basicly free. MH interest is tax deductable. So, keep a balance of a MH loan and expendable cash. Just my experience over the years. Consult a tax advisor for more info.
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Yeah, it'll be cash only after the sale of the homestead. Perhaps 2014?
Remember some lenders will not work with you if you don't have a stick and brick house. I'm getting 8% on investments, so it's easy to make a 5% payment on tax deductible loans.
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Coma where are you getting 8%?
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Having a Banks kit on an engine would be a plus as the kits are designed to work with the lowest rated portion of the drivetrain and not overstress it. On the Cummins units Banks worked directly with Allison and Cummins.
The chips I would certainly stay away from.
Banks didn't have a kit for a Cummins with a 2000 Allison.
They only sold a PowerPack & Stinger kit for a 3000 series.
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