How Much Carry Capacity for Fulltiming

[Tom and Patty]

We have considered a few coaches for replacing our 2000 Alpine which has a 4200lb CCC.
How much do we realistically need to be able to carry?
Is 1400 lbs for all incidentals or 1900 lbs enough after fuel, full water, propane and people.
Let’s her it from you full timers.

Travel safe

Thx.

[Sky_Boss]

I think that really depends on a few factors. The most important is how well the coach is balanced to avoid overloading an axle well before you get to your CCC. As an example, on our previous coach we had a 10,000# CCC but we maxed out the front axle with about (if I remember correctly) 3,000# of CCC used.

If you are looking at a gasser then watch out for the rear axle.

[c_oneil]

We have been full time for a couple years and have stuffed the bays on our Alpine. The weight of all that stuff plus two passengers is pretty close to 1700#. Fuel, water, waste tanks, people and propane is not included in that 1700#.

[Tom and Patty]

Thanks. You helped confirm what I thought. We should stay north of 2000 lbs and ideally have 3000 lbs or more.

[JpalmerCass]

We full time in a 34 foot long Tiffin 32SA gasser on a 24,000 pound chassis. Fully loaded with all our stuff and half tanks of gas and water and both of us seated in front we weighed 22,500 with the 1500 pounds of leftover payload about equally split between front and rear axles. We're in good shape.

At the time I figured we had about 2000 pounds of stuff but we have less stuff now and are somewhat lighter. If something isn't used out it goes. And we cut way back on the amount of canned food we carry.

[dandandan]

We added 4000 lbs to empty weight. That included full fuel and full water. Did not typically always have full water, but occasionally we did

[Trapper2022]

When looking at full time rigs we only considered rigs with tag axels. Ended up with 45’ Essex and never gave a thought to what we carried. This included not having to worry about what if anything was in tanks.

Enjoy the journey

[Gary RVRoamer]

Be careful of CCC vs NCC vs OCCC. Your 2000 probably has an NCC rating, which is a vastly different number than the CCC required by the RVIA for several years but very close to the federal standard OCCC that became the law in mid-2008. CCC is a much lower number because it subtracts a full water tank and passenger weight from the carrying capacity (they are listed separately).


4200 is a pretty reasonable NCC or OCCC but many people get along with less, as little as 2000 lbs. The amount of fresh water you like to carry is a major factor, as is the weight of passengers. 840 lbs of water (a full 100 gallon tank) and a couple 200+ lb passengers &or pets makes a big dent in the capacity.

[DurangoNick]

Originally Posted by Tom and Patty

We have considered a few coaches for replacing our 2000 Alpine which has a 4200lb CCC.
How much do we realistically need to be able to carry?
Is 1400 lbs for all incidentals or 1900 lbs enough after fuel, full water, propane and people.
Let’s her it from you full timers.

Travel safe

Thx.

The carrying capacity on our 2014 Bounder is 3,400 lbs. When we weighed it last month, we were about 900 lbs under. That includes water, people, etc. I wouldn't want much less. We still have room for more shoes :-)

[barmcd]

Originally Posted by Gary RVRoamer

Be careful of CCC vs NCC vs OCCC. Your 2000 probably has an NCC rating, which is a vastly different number than the CCC required by the RVIA for several years but very close to the federal standard OCCC that became the law in mid-2008. CCC is a much lower number because it subtracts a full water tank and passenger weight from the carrying capacity (they are listed separately).


4200 is a pretty reasonable NCC or OCCC but many people get along with less, as little as 2000 lbs. The amount of fresh water you like to carry is a major factor, as is the weight of passengers. 840 lbs of water (a full 100 gallon tank) and a couple 200+ lb passengers &or pets makes a big dent in the capacity.

Gary, what's OCCC and NCC?

[dandandan]

Originally Posted by Trapperbob11

When looking at full time rigs we only considered rigs with tag axels. Ended up with 45’ Essex and never gave a thought to what we carried. This included not having to worry about what if anything was in tanks.

Enjoy the journey

Tag axle is an overly simplistic solution.


Single axle can be over weight a small percentage and not risk failure of the axle. These are truck axles designed for 500+K miles. If only a small percentage over a MH should get 200+K miles of use which is more than most will ever see.


Braking is another issue. If a single axle is over it's brake rating than stopping will be degraded by the amount it is over weight.


But a tag needs to have it's drive and tag weight balanced as well. Some tags do have good weight balance and many do not. A 70% 30% weight balance on drive/tag can be as bad for braking as single axle MHs that are over weight a small percentage. Greater imbalance on drive/tag can be worse than a single axle for braking.



Tags are not a panacea and simple looking at axle ratings is overly simplistic. Balancing drive and tag axle weight ratios needs to done, not ignored

[marjoa]

We have around 4,400lbs. of CCC. We Travel with about 800lbs. below full GVWR at about 21,200 and we carry—believe me...everything we need and more—.

I've attached a detailed report of what I keep for your reference. This record is based on last years 4 corner weigh at Escapees.