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04-06-2014, 06:09 PM
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Location: Wheat Ridge, CO
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How Old Would You Go?
Hello Again Everybody...
Looking to replace the old Class A I recently sold with something newer.
Technology in RVs has changed a very significant amount in the past decade or so. It is truly amazing.
My question is this: Taking into account the following, how "old" would you go if you were to buy a "gently used" Class A?
1. Minimum 40'
2. Minimum 2 Slides
3. Diesel Pusher
4. Under 60,000 miles
5. Looking to go Full Time within the next 18 months or so with just little ol' me, most likely.
6. From $80,000 to $175,000.
Just curious as to how old and when you think most of the significant technological changes would help set a "cut-off" date for you.
And feel free to say something like "just buy new" if that is your thought.
Thanks again...Everyone is very helpful on this site and I dig it!
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04-06-2014, 06:14 PM
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Monaco Owners Club Holiday Rambler Owners Club
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Sounds like 2009 to 2011 unless you are looking at Prevost or Newell.
The higher up the food chain (original cost) the higher your cost.
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2003 Class C, 29' Gulfstream
Next stop?
Previous rigs..2 Pickup campers,2 TT's, 3 DP MH's
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04-06-2014, 06:23 PM
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Myself, I would go back as far as I could! I would be looking for something solid equipped with everything I was looking for? That's me though - somebody that enjoys messing around with his coach and doing 99% of any required work myself.
Other than getting rid of the CRT type TV's, new technology doesn't
present anything I can think of that would be on my "must have" list.
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03 CR-V Blue Ox, Ready Brake
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04-06-2014, 06:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ahicks
Myself, I would go back as far as I could! I would be looking for something solid equipped with everything I was looking for? That's me though - somebody that enjoys messing around with his coach and doing 99% of any required work myself.
Other than getting rid of the CRT type TV's, new technology doesn't
present anything I can think of that would be on my "must have" list.
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I agree with the above. For a grand the old TVs are gone and you have a lot of coach in the price range. There are a lot of middle-high end coaches in your range pre DEF, which equate to lower operating costs and less complicated exhaust/engine packages.
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04-06-2014, 06:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by t55watson
Sounds like 2009 to 2011 unless you are looking at Prevost or Newell.
The higher up the food chain (original cost) the higher your cost.
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And the higher the maintenance costs.
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Resident Dummy.
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04-06-2014, 06:50 PM
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When we were shopping 4 years ago my requirement was MH less than 5 years old. We were replacing one 15 years old.
Most of the used units needed or soon would need tires etc.
Discount pricing available off MSRP made a brand new unit a better deal for us.
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GMC Envoy 4x4
SW Michigan to Alaska in 2015
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04-06-2014, 06:58 PM
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Stay with a 2006 or older engine to avoid emission related complexity.
You can easily get into a 2000 Prevost conversion. And NO the maintenance cost is not more than a similar traditional coach. I have a 99 Country Coach conversion with over 100,000 miles. I've owned it three years and have traveled through most states, to include Alaska. The maintenance costs are very similar to the 08 Beaver Contessa I had.
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03 Prevost H3-45
Hoffman Conversion
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04-06-2014, 07:20 PM
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When we were MH shopping, several friends advised us to buy the highest quality MH we could afford, even though it meant buying older than we planned. We followed that advice and bought a 2000 Winnebago Ultimate Freedom built on a Spartan chassis with 23,xxx miles, their top of the line, limited production MH. One of those friends owns a 2006 Newmar Essex; after seeing our MH she said our coach has options and quality hers did not, but wished her coach had them. We are happy with our purchase and enjoy it thoroughly.
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04-06-2014, 07:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by UAV
Hello Again Everybody... Looking to replace the old Class A I recently sold with something newer. Technology in RVs has changed a very significant amount in the past decade or so. It is truly amazing. My question is this: Taking into account the following, how "old" would you go if you were to buy a "gently used" Class A? 1. Minimum 40' 2. Minimum 2 Slides 3. Diesel Pusher 4. Under 60,000 miles 5. Looking to go Full Time within the next 18 months or so with just little ol' me, most likely. 6. From $80,000 to $175,000. Just curious as to how old and when you think most of the significant technological changes would help set a "cut-off" date for you. And feel free to say something like "just buy new" if that is your thought. Thanks again...Everyone is very helpful on this site and I dig it!
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If I were looking:
1. Monaco Signature, Executive, Dynasty. 2003-2006 vintage.
2. Up grade to 3 slide min. Two in the front really opens up the living area.
3. AquaHot.
4. Tag axle.
5. Lose the Milage requirement. If the drive train is maintained the mileage is totally unimportant.
6. Do look for complete maintenance records.
My wife and I have lived full time in our '03 Signature for 7 years now. We have no desire to trade. We have up graded the A/V equipment and remodeled the interior after 5 years for an insignificant % of what a trade would cost. The coach has 100k miles on the clock and I wouldn't hesitate to leave this week on a trip to Alaska.
Good luck in your hunt and let us know what you do.
Safe travels.
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2003 Monaco Signature
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04-06-2014, 08:11 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Wheat Ridge, CO
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You guys are great! Sucking up all the good info so I appreciate it very much!
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04-06-2014, 08:19 PM
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I agree with Steve all those coaches are good choices and don't forget Travel Supreme Select we love our 05 a lot of coach for the money all electric tag axle aqua hot 500 HP Cummings and it is in your budget.. I would choose a well cared for older high line model.
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04-06-2014, 08:27 PM
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Georgie Boy Owners Club
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So I guess one key point is staying with a pre 2006 coach. I guess the emission stuff post 2007 have been a pain?
Aside from MPG issues and DEF costs, I wonder what are the other issues with the newer DP engines?
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04-07-2014, 10:24 AM
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2007 was when diesel particulant filters were mandated. 2010 for DEF or equivalent. DPF was troublesome for some. It did not make a big impact on fuel mileage. Many DEF engines did take a big hit on fuel mileage. Both engines have increased maintenance costs. FWIW, 2007+ engines aren't found in many 2007 model year coaches. Even a few 2008 model coaches had 2006 engines.
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Gil
03 Prevost H3-45
Hoffman Conversion
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04-07-2014, 11:05 AM
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Country Coach Owners Club
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I would be looking for a 2002-3 Country Coach Magna or Affinity or Prevost Conversion. Also in the mix could be the top end Travel Supreme.
For Country Coach that was the sweet spot for their quality and features (IMHO). Later coaches got too complex. Although, I sure like the 2006 models of the Magna & Affinity also.
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1995 38' CC Magna #5280 **** Sold after 21 years of enjoyment.
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