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Old 09-20-2016, 01:23 PM   #1
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How would you decide?

Newmar Ventana 3724 vs. Fleetwood Discovery 39F. We like the floorplans with the two sink bathroom in the middle. I assume Fleetwood owners will say the Discovery and Newmar owners will say the Ventana. We have never owned an RV. So we have no built in biases....yet. I'm not sure how to make an objective decision here. It would seem to come down to quality/construction (not sure I'm able to tell a significant difference) and the ability to get good support/service (and is that more a byproduct of the vendor or the dealer?). So as a new shopper in this universe, what would you experienced folk say would be the way to decide.

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Old 09-20-2016, 01:29 PM   #2
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Both good coaches and manufactures. All else being equal, I would buy the Newmar. A step up in construction, quality, and customer service. IMHO.

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Old 09-20-2016, 01:30 PM   #3
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No experience with either manufacturer. Most will say the one they own. There will always be a few who do not get the stellar service or are unhappy with the service they get.

Newmar owners appear to be more enthusiastic than Fleetwood, at least on this forum.

Is there a difference in price? Is there a difference in the quality that you can see? Which colors are preferred? Are the engine and chassis the same?

Based on your gut instincts which appeals to the DW more?
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Old 09-20-2016, 02:08 PM   #4
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If the coaches themselves are quite acceptable to you then focus on what choices are within your control....price and dealer. If the price doesn't provide you a strong differentiation then the dealer...dealer rep., service, your own human instincts. The dealer means a lot to me but some people seem rather indifferent or have had bad apples poison the barrell. I would not consider a dealer 1,000 miles away unless the price was well beyond anything I've ever seen.
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Old 09-20-2016, 02:18 PM   #5
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Well, having had two Dutch Stars and now a Country Coach I'd have to say the Newmar just from the standpoint of the knowledge of the construction of the Dutch Stars.
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Old 09-20-2016, 04:08 PM   #6
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Both good units, like others I give the edge to Newmar.
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Old 09-20-2016, 04:39 PM   #7
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Newmar upgraded their chassis construction last year but not sure which models it applies to. Go to their web site, they have a series of videos on their construction and will explain how they made a stiffer and stronger chassis.
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Old 09-21-2016, 07:32 AM   #8
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Newmar is a step above Fleetwood on quality. I just did both factory tours last week. QC is lacking very much at FW. Newmar does many QC checks during and after completion before they deliver any coach.
There is a difference in price for that level of quality. What are the difference in MSRPs? You do know you don't pay any where near MSRP correct? Is price an important factor?
FW has very good customer service from FW. The dealers on the other hand are not to be trusted to do any work correctly or timely. I have had months and numerours problems with Lazydays. I ended up going to the FW service center for all my warranty work and very happy with the crew in Decatur. I can not speak as to Newmar dealers.
FW has a number of service centers across the US. Newmar has one.
All that said, I am selling my FW and buying a Newmar.
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A vote for Newmar.....better reputation......better quality.
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There has to be a price difference.
If not FW is asking to much or Newmar to little.
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Still would like to know more details about each coach. Are they both new or used? What is the price difference?

Without the relevant information we are giving generalizations.

IMO based on posts to this forum and considering production numbers all manufacturers have about the same failure rate. This is a subjective opinion.
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Old 09-21-2016, 11:52 AM   #12
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Both are fine coaches for their place in the pecking order of model lineup. Not entry level, and not top dawg either!

Discovery owners are a loyal gang, and they have one of the most active owners groups around.

Same can be said for Newmar as a manufacturer, IMO, being happier as a group then all up Fleetwood (Minus American Coach, which treat separated then Fleetwood.).

OP - If buying new, I'd give the nod to Newmar. Even if it costs you more money. Ordering from the factory, and taking factory delivery, is a plus. When ordering, Newmar will work with you on reasonable modifications to the coach, to make it more customize to what the two of you want. And one other plus to the Newmar, I believe it includes Comfort Drive(?) - a nice feature.

If buying used, then it would be condition, condition, condition! And I'd take condition over rock bottom price.

All that being said. Even though we all quite often read about 'Buy your last coach first!'. It really is difficult to do, as it takes sometime in RV'ing - to determine what you really want! So, unless your positive that these two coaches are 'The one!' (And for sure, great if it they are.), you might want to consider looking at some used lower purchase point coaches. Go out and use them for a few years. And along the way, both you make notes about what you'd want to be different in your next coach. (You may find you want larger Grey/Black tanks. Or more power to to pull mountains. Or higher CCC capacity. Or more, or less, slides. You may want Jake Compression Brakes vs Exhaust. You may want side vs rear radiator. You may want a tag for added stability and again CCC. You may want.... Etc.)

Then go out and do your search again, and get a coach for the long haul.

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IMO most people change units because they do not buy or become disillusioned with the floor plan. Some purchase the problematic unit and frustration may cause them to pass the problems on to the next buyer.

Lots of things to consider. Floor plan, electronics, amenities, features, color, conveniences will all factor into any decision. Worse is our standards and values will change as we age or mature in life.

IMO buy the floor plan that most closely meets your needs and wants. Go to a dealer (with lots of stock new and used if possible), ditch the salesman and spend the day sitting in the various units. Pretend you are house bound by inclement weather and then imagine how you would deal with the inconvenience.

Are you comfortable? Can you lay out a hobby, cook a meal, watch a game and a movie, have a nap without getting in each others way?

The closer you get to what you want the less likely you will be to replacing it. No matter what you buy or how you configure it the manufacturers will always be coming up with innovations or changes designed to entice you to buy another.
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Newmar has been mentioned and this link should give you some answers as to price and construction.
You mention floor plan which most will agree for both you and wife and any travelers you may have.
You will see pricing from the Bay Star's to a King Aire and all in between.
There are many happy used Newmar owners also.
If you see something you may like ask on the forum about it and get the answers.
Good luck in what ever you decide and enjoy your new adventure.

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