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Old 03-15-2016, 07:08 PM   #15
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Inconsiderate people are a problem whether they're driving a diesel pusher, riding a Harley, or blocking the left lane in their Prius. They're also the ones that scream the loudest when someone annoys them. There's no winning. The only solution is to ignore them or go somewhere else.
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Old 03-15-2016, 07:10 PM   #16
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I read the first post different than you guys.....I read it to mean he's not leaving but just idling his MH in the mornings. I was going to guess to charge batteries?

My error in not being clear. He was leaving. I was just wondering the reasoning in a twenty minute warm up.
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Old 03-15-2016, 07:18 PM   #17
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As a gas owner starting the engine is the second to last think I do before departing. My short length shallow slides are not interlocked to the ignition along with the jacks. Slides in, jacks up, shore power disconnected, engine start. One last walk around inspection looking for power train leaks and we're on the road. If the toad is along for the trip it gets connected either at the dump station or similar common area away from the camp sites. Arrival is the reverse with a few extra minutes to inspect the camp site.

When the big day comes and there's a DP in my driveway not idling for any longer than necessary is high on my list.
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Old 03-15-2016, 07:25 PM   #18
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Old 03-15-2016, 07:32 PM   #19
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We DP Owners just love the Smell of Diesel in the morning !
Usually take 15 min or so to Air up - Warm the Oil and Roll out.
Get Over it !
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Old 03-15-2016, 07:39 PM   #20
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Old 03-15-2016, 07:41 PM   #21
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To the OP, did you actually time it? Sometimes time seems to move slower when your aggrevated. I think it could probably be done in 10 minutes but who knows. Mine has to be started to bring in slides, then jacks retracted. Then I unhook power, give a good walk around, get inside and settled in cockpit and off we go. Twenty minutes to me sounds fair when you have a DP and also need to air up. I usually start my gen before disonnecting power too otherwise it takes for ever for sat system to regain its lock for in motion but gen is no louder than engine. Im out to have a nice relaxing time so I dont worry too much about the little stuff, I will admit that the diesel fumes can be bad but I believe most are as courteous as can be expected. Go with the flow. As for the other guy, 45 minutes and I would have said something.
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Old 03-15-2016, 07:53 PM   #22
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We DP Owners just love the Smell of Diesel in the morning !
Usually take 15 min or so to Air up - Warm the Oil and Roll out.
Get Over it !
That's not a great attitude, what would you do if someone with an older gas model that needed a tune up sat idling next to you for 15 minutes with the smell of raw gas coming in your MH/campsite. I doubt you would just "get over it". I think diesel smells as bad or worse and lingers longer. Thanks to all of you with either gas or diesel who do your best to limit your exhaust around campsites, and respect others, it is appreciated.
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It's been covered, here - and on a few thousand other posts on many forums too!

Yes, some older DP's, or the Fivers with older Diesel Pick-em-up's too - require longer warm up period.

IMO, 5-7 minutes is pushing it... 3-5 minutes I consider reasonable for the reasons mentioned. (Mostly, airing up the chassis and air brakes.).

That being said, I'm disturbed many more times by all kinds of RV, Fivers, Trailers, Truck Campers - that are up Oh-Early-AM, and packing things away. Slamming basement doors, making sure that 'Fred, FRed, FREd, FRED - don't forget to toss out the Dog Sh_t! bag! (Nice that the lady wanted to be sure that Fred. Who had been working quietly outside for 20 minutes getting ready to go, too care of the Dog's bag of joy - that she had left on the electrical post after she too the little critter for the AM routine... I'm sure she was doing her thing inside, getting ready to get underway. But by the third them she SHOUTED FRED, she could (SHOULD) have just stepped outside and tossed out the bag herself!

My point? Yeah, I have one. Inconsiderate people come in on kinds of rigs. And not always just leaving early in the AM. Those that roll into a park late, I'm talking 11:00PM + in some cases, and are also not really concerned about their fellow neighbors as they back in, set up, and talk in loud voices over their very late evening cocktails... Yep, inconsiderate people come late, leave early, or noon - and drive rolling relics to high end Rock Star Busses....

Yes, do speak out if you feel it is safe to say so. I do. But, if you get any inclination that their could be problems - it's not worth it, call the park Emergency Contact Number. If they don't pick up, then call the local police or sheriff to report ongoing noise problems. (Not the police or sheriff if they're heading out in the AM. But any other time of the day, if the campsite will not help other guests with a problem one - then sure, but stress it is not an emergency!).

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Mike-- With All due respect we meaning all of us that travel anywhere will eventually come across inconveniences, Either staying in Rest areas- Truck Stops Ect and Yes Campgrounds and RV Parks.
Its the nature of the beast! So to Speak ! Get over it or maybe you don't travel very much.
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my coach holds air for two months, that air runs bags and brakes.At 60 degrees just start and idle in drive out of campground, by the time you need power it will be warmed up
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It's not only the big rigs that cause commotion. How about those large groups of "weekend warrior" types who pack several tents on one site, create extremely large bonfires, party the night away and kids run wild? Personally I think a little early morning therapy never hurt that bunch.... ah but I digress....
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It's not only the big rigs that cause commotion. How about those large groups of "weekend warrior" types who pack several tents on one site, create extremely large bonfires, party the night away and kids run wild? Personally I think a little early morning therapy never hurt that bunch.... ah but I digress....
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Well, my brother-in-law is new to RVing, bought a DP last year. Years ago, he drove trucks over the road. Sorry to say, in spite of suggestions from me, old habits die hard. He idles his rig every time we stop, fuel, lunch, campground, rest stops.

In the morning before departure, check the oil, thump the tires, start the engine. Then get everything else ready.
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