Ok problem resolved, and of course as is usually the case with me it was operator error.
After spending a full day with an electrician friend testing every connection, removing and reinstalling the batteries twice we suddenly noticed a bit of yellow on one of the cables. Pukked everything apart and cleaned all of the cables with WD40 and voila the cable with a yellow stripe was a RED cable,not black so I was hooking it up to the ground instead of the positive. DUH
So lesson learned, one when in trouble get out the wiring diagrams and clean the grease and crud off of the wires so you can see their colors.
Oh yea remember in my first post I asked about the 4 wires to the ground or negative, well it is only three.
All is well for now until I find out that I fried something in the process.
Again thanks for all of the suggestions.
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