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Old 11-02-2015, 11:56 AM   #1
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Is generator always req'd for Wolf Induction 220v

Our order for an all-electric Tiffin Phaeton 40 QBH coach is almost ready to be assembled.

Due to the poor reviews of the standard Summit Induction Cooktop, we have ordered it to be replaced with a 220v Wolf Induction cooktop.

Now someone has told us that, due to the fact that it is 220v, we will have to run the generator even if we are hooked to shore power any time we wish to cook.

Does anyone know if that is the case? If so we need to change our order very quickly.

Thanks for any information that you can give us!
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Old 11-02-2015, 12:05 PM   #2
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If you are connected to a correctly wired 50amp service (240v across L1 and L2) and the cooktop is wired correctly it should work fine.
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Old 11-02-2015, 12:17 PM   #3
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Thank you so much for the quick reply!
This is our first MH so that is the reason for the basic questions.
Do the hookups at the campground always supply 50 Amp?
If it is 50 amp service, will it always support the 220v cooktop?
If it is not a 50 amp service, will it be possible to still use the Wolf Induction cooktop?
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You will not be able to use the cooktop without a 50 amp supply. The problem is not so much the amperage, but 30 amp service is only 110 volts, without the capability of supplying 110 or 220 volts like 50 amp service.
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Old 11-02-2015, 12:52 PM   #5
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NO NOT ALL CAMPGROUNDS HAVE A 50 AMP SUPPLY. MOST PRIVATE PARKS WILL BUT STATE , NATIONAL AND LOCAL PARKS MAY NOT. GOOD LUCK WITH THE NEW RIG.
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Old 11-02-2015, 04:23 PM   #6
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Make sure your generator is also 220v.
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Make sure your generator is also 220v.
You will need at least a 12,000W generator to supply the correct amount of amps.
Our dryer is a 220 volt only, which I like as it works faster but have to have a 50 amp RV service or run our 12.5 KW gen set.
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Old 11-02-2015, 07:58 PM   #8
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oh oh that really worries me. The Tiffin Phaeton 40' QBH only has a 10 kw that comes with it...
Will we even be able to use the Wolf 220 Induction cooktop with this smaller generator.
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Old 11-02-2015, 08:05 PM   #9
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Ask the factory if a "Load Shedding" device is part of your electrical equipment. This allows more flexibility is appliance use. If not, you may have to watch your usage a bit - i.e. not run all the high wattage appliances at the same time. Not a big deal, as many of us have gotten used to doing it.

You may find that carrying a 120 volt portable counter top induction cooktop will be a good back-up for when only 120 volt hook-ups are available.
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I don't have a problem running my 220 volt induction cooktop with a 10K generator. Do not believe any manufacturer would install inadequate generator for the equipment on board.
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According to Mr. D, no. I really don't know of any production coach other than top of the line than come with 12.5 KW generators? Maybe Tiffin will upgrade but it will be very expensive. I would just upgrade to another high line reviewed 110 volt induction top other than summit. Lot less hassle. JMO.
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Unless I'm missing something here, it really doesn't matter what generator he has or 50 amp power. The Tiffin isn't going to come with a wired connection for a 220 cooktop. Even if it did, custom wiring would have to be installed from the generator to the cooktop. Depending on the amps required for the cooktop, it would require a 30 amp, 40 amp or 50 amp dedicated circuit just for the cooktop. That would pretty much use up the campground 50 amp circuit, just for the cooktop.

Some of the high end coaches using 220 volt require 100 amp campsites.
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You should have no problem using the Wolf on 50 amp service. Just be sure not to use a lot of heavy draw appliances at one time. The 10K genset handles it just fine. Just be aware not to run a bunch of high amp things at the same time. The coach sheds loads to keep things right so if you have the Wolf going and 2 ac's kick in while on genset the coach will shut down one ac. No worries. Great cook top!
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oh oh that really worries me. The Tiffin Phaeton 40' QBH only has a 10 kw that comes with it...
Will we even be able to use the Wolf 220 Induction cooktop with this smaller generator.
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I don't have a problem running my 220 volt induction cooktop with a 10K generator. Do not believe any manufacturer would install inadequate generator for the equipment on board.
Both the 10K & 12.5K gens come in 120/240V. In addition you can get the 5.5K and 7.5K gens in 120/240V but only in the commercial line. They are the same size and sound levels as the RV versions but the warranty is only one year instead of tow.
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