It's Here Winnebago Electric Motorhome

[jcussen]

Originally Posted by jharrell

No you don't have a 10,000 kwh or 10 megawatt hour battery. You have a 7200 watt/hr battery or 7.2 kwh if your bank is 12v.

1,000,000 watt/hr / 1500 watts = 667 hours of run time or about 27 days continuous.

You don't run your whole battery down, just like you wouldn't use up all your fuel with a generator, you save enough to drive out to charging station. Solar would help you extend your stay.

Yes you are right, got decimals mixed up. 10000 kwh is beyond my imagination. Solar would help, but I have almost 1500 watts and can only get 3 or 4 kwh's a day in idea conditions.
Not sure where the nearest charging station is from Quartzite.
Now it costs about $100 per kw/hr for the battery bank, so definitely in the far future for rv's.
https://electrek.co/2018/05/02/tesla...ase-elon-musk/

[Alan_Hepburn]

Our gas-powered motorhome will easily go 400 miles on a full "charge" in the gas tank, then it takes 10 minutes to bring the gas tank back up to 100% "charge". When electric motorhomes can compete with that, then they might gain a footing.

[RELHUB]

Originally Posted by Alan_Hepburn

Our gas-powered motorhome will easily go 400 miles on a full "charge" in the gas tank, then it takes 10 minutes to bring the gas tank back up to 100% "charge". When electric motorhomes can compete with that, then they might gain a footing.

....can't imagine this electric mess will ever be able to match the range of my gas MH anytime soon. When and if the do I will be too old to drive one.

[radar]

Getting a 25 foot Motorhome to go 400 miles is not a big issue. For the time being the lack of charging infrastructure is the hold back. Although charging infrastructure is developing well for the electric vehicle industry the size of RV’s makes it very difficult to access the facilities. Most are back or nose in affairs. Some forethought will be needed to allow drive thru access. Former gas stations would work for smaller RV’s and they’ll be first on the scene.

EV friendly campgrounds would be s better solution. A second dedicated 50 amp 14-50 plug would work in many cases if the user was staying for a couple days. Not so great for the overnight crowd as overnight would get you about 120 KW. Initial infrastructure installation cost would be big but utilities would probably see it as an opportunity and kick in some of the development costs. They are already doing that with Chademo CCS and Supercharger sites. Long term revenue security.

Lots of changes coming in the next couple decades.

[richard5933]

We just stayed at a small, older, campground in a very rural area. They have been doing upgrades, but only some of the sites have 50-amp service. I can't imagine campgrounds like this would be remotely able to provide charging services for one, let alone a dozen of their customers at one time. They have trouble keep stable service for what they already have, given the rural grid in the area.


Lot's of infrastructure improvements needed before these things are going to start flying out of the dealers showrooms.



However, for all those using a small rig for tailgating or short weekend jaunts where they can charge at home? Possibly.

[radar]

Originally Posted by richard5933

We just stayed at a small, older, campground in a very rural area. They have been doing upgrades, but only some of the sites have 50-amp service. I can't imagine campgrounds like this would be remotely able to provide charging services for one, let alone a dozen of their customers at one time. They have trouble keep stable service for what they already have, given the rural grid in the area.


Lot's of infrastructure improvements needed before these things are going to start flying out of the dealers showrooms.



However, for all those using a small rig for tailgating or short weekend jaunts where they can charge at home? Possibly.

I tend to agree. Around here most camp with a 150 km of home. But I think there will also be a market for campgrounds with a few EVRV spots once EVRV’s start to come out. Maybe half a dozen spots with clipper creek 80 amp EVSE’s on each site. I would imagine just like every other EV on the road EVRV’s will use a J1772 connected for max compatibility.

[Ray,IN]

Originally Posted by RELHUB

Wow for me this would never work
Not enough places to visit within 125 miles

Make that 62.5 miles if you want to get home. I can see it now, a CG owner says " your electric bill is $137 for the week."

[elite wa]

I am all for electric especially if they can perfect it to perform like a fossil fuel vehicle. My wife and my next car will be electric we drive less the 10 miles a day. I can say that because living in Washington state electricity is basically free compared to a large portion of the country. My power bill for a 3400 square foot house is only 160 bucks a month compared to 350 per month for a 1900 square foot home when I lived in phx

[radar]

Originally Posted by Ray,IN

Make that 62.5 miles if you want to get home. I can see it now, a CG owner says " your electric bill is $137 for the week."

More than likely the campground wouldn’t get involved in the motive electricity billing. Just the regular campground electricity you use for camping billing. Maybe leave it to a a company like Chargepoint or Flo. Pull in, swipe your flow RFID card on the Chargepoint or Flo or EVGO EVSE and start your charge. Then hook up your RV to the standard campground electrical hookup.

So let’s say home power rate us 15 cents per kilowatt hour, commercial EVSE is normally double or more the home rate so 30 to 40 cents a kilowatt hour. Let’s say say you take on 200 kWh. Your bill for your motive power would be 60 to 80 bucks. A large class B Motorhome would maybe go 500 km on that. Meh. It’s doable.

[manderson2228]

Hard Pass, thanks!

[manderson2228]

Originally Posted by Alan_Hepburn

Our gas-powered motorhome will easily go 400 miles on a full "charge" in the gas tank, then it takes 10 minutes to bring the gas tank back up to 100% "charge". When electric motorhomes can compete with that, then they might gain a footing.

There ya have it! Summed up nicely. Talk to me when we get here AND cost is the same AND the technology is mature and reliable.

[radar]

Originally Posted by manderson2228

There ya have it! Summed up nicely. Talk to me when we get here AND cost is the same AND the technology is mature and reliable.

Meh. Lots of people don’t travel more than a couple kilometres a day unless they are dead heading. 300 km is a long day for us when we are touring. Plus no annoying gas station stops.

It’ll be a decade before campground EVSE’s show up. Electric trucks pulling trailers will come first. The campgrounds will respond accordingly.

[Dave11]

Originally Posted by jackreno

Electric motorhomes are coming: a new RV powered by solar panels and 91 kWh battery pack

Now a new prototype of an actual full-size electric motorhome shows that it’s possible.

https://electrek.co/2017/09/18/elect...solar-battery/

No question that it is possible and has been for a while, just not practical. No reason to get all worked up about it though it will be quite some (many years) time before it becomes practical.

[Gordon Dewald]

I have a feeling that electric RV will be the 8 track/cassette in the progression to less emissions. By the time all of the issues are sorted out a new technology/fuel source will be there as a better alternative.