Go Back   iRV2 Forums > MOTORHOME FORUMS > Class A Motorhome Discussions
Click Here to Login
Join iRV2 Today

Mission Statement: Supporting thoughtful exchange of knowledge, values and experience among RV enthusiasts.
Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on iRV2
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 09-18-2015, 02:52 PM   #15
Senior Member
 
BRex45's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 295
Looks to have been driven through saltwater or on salted winter roads. That is a heavy coat of rust on the air can push rods. Our semi-trailers, driven coast to coast, did not show that much rust. DMTTransport had an excellent suggestion and you should think of checking all the slack adjusters for free movement and make sure the grease zerks are accepting grease.
__________________

__________________
BRex

'97 Country Coach Intrigue
BRex45 is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? Do you need advice on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 09-18-2015, 04:28 PM   #16
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Keeseville ny
Posts: 337
When you took the picture was your park brake on? If so it looks all right. Make sure the pin is loose. You should have a peep hole where you can see how far the shoes are from the drums. Air brakes are a easy system to learn and if you have them you should at least learn the basics.
__________________

__________________
cwit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-2015, 05:35 PM   #17
Senior Member
 
Pds47's Avatar
 
Monaco Owners Club
Holiday Rambler Owners Club
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Tucson AZ
Posts: 260
Blog Entries: 1
just a brake pod that has been used up north and or east salt rust should not be a problem brake pods cost about 80 to 100 each replace if they seen ugly but if the pin where it hooks to the arm is free drive on, just make sure your brakes are adjusted
__________________
Paul & Megan 2007 Neptune XL 36 PDQ REK Bilsteins, KarKaddy,mini cooper, W/ Bear and Sedona
Pds47 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-2015, 05:36 PM   #18
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 7,831
Quote:
Originally Posted by cwit View Post
When you took the picture was your park brake on? If so it looks all right. Make sure the pin is loose. You should have a peep hole where you can see how far the shoes are from the drums. Air brakes are a easy system to learn and if you have them you should at least learn the basics.
The DOT maximum movement on the rod is 1 inch. Even if the rod is out 1 inch on installation, there is about 5 inchs, to much movement, on that rod.

With the parking brake on, you can not see how far the shoes are from the drum, since they are on, nor will the pin be loose.
With the brake off there will be lots of room, between drum and shoe, but that is not a way to gauge brake adjustment.

The automatic slack adjuster linkage is purposely bent away from the adjuster, most likely because the adjuster is frozen. That must be addressed !

I referenced a DOT Training Manual that explains all of this, with lots of detail.
__________________
twinboat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-2015, 06:22 PM   #19
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 116
Take it back to the dealer They sold you a very unsafe RV
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I would not drive that thing a mile down the road.


Is it bad, Hel((( yess
__________________
2008 Dutch Star 4035
Retired IBEW Local 595
Dutchstar08 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-2015, 07:05 PM   #20
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Watertown NY USA
Posts: 999
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dad View Post
Wow, I bought this from a dealer too. Ugh:(

I did replace the tires on the front $620 each. Saving up for the back. The fronts were 12 years.
A dealer sold this to you in this condition?
Do you have a warranty?
Does your state have an inspection program? Does the vehicle have to pass a LEGAL inspection before it is sold by a dealer?
If you can answer yes to any of these three questions you might have some recourse. At the least the dealer may offer to buy it back.
Lynn
__________________
LETMGROW is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2015, 05:49 AM   #21
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Keeseville ny
Posts: 337
I went to the dot specks and it says 3/4 to 1 1/2 ins travel does not state how long the rod should be. I should of said the distance the shoes from the drum should be checked with the air brake off. There is no rod for the auto adjuster it is built within the slack itself. I did state they should be checked. I still stand by my statements. Dot is section 108 I believe. Also the pin should be checked with the brake off. I hope I corrected all my statements, I want the OP to be safe.
__________________
cwit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2015, 06:19 AM   #22
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 7,831
It also states that it should not go beyond 90 degree angle, between the slack and the rod, when brake applied. WAY past that.

Zoom in and you can see the auto adjuster bent up out of the way.
__________________
twinboat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2015, 04:06 PM   #23
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Keeseville ny
Posts: 337
After zooming in I don't know what that is on top of that slack. Auto adjuster Maybe I don't know. I have never seen one like that. I have a lot of years working on air brakes and if you say it is an auto adjust I cannot disagree. To me it kind of looks like a manual slack with the 9/16 head. REgardless it needs to be checked.
__________________
cwit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2015, 10:09 AM   #24
Dad
Member
 
Dad's Avatar
 
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Cincinnati
Posts: 45
RV is at the mechanics, He said the break being like it is in the picture is crazy stupid and it should not have been on the road other then driving it to a close mechanic. Was able to fix it. Other then that one he said the breaks look good.

I will try and go after the dealer. I think they should at least pay for all the broken stuff that was broken when I bought it. I did get a warranty but they called and said they won't pay for anything since it was a preexisting condition. So since it was broke when I bought it they are not paying for it. (why did I buy a warranty then?)

The tire dates are too old and will get that in the budget to replace.

Will take on a rust removal project in the spring.

The info in this thread and the others I have started had been great. Thanks for all of it. I hope I get to a point some day were I can help someone out. I am a new guy in all this rv stuff so learning and learning fast.
__________________
2001 Monaco Diplomat
350 Cummings
Allison Transmission
Dad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2015, 12:47 PM   #25
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 7,831
Sounds like a Tail light warranty.

Once the dealer sees the tail lights, the warranty is over.
__________________
twinboat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2015, 04:09 AM   #26
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Watertown NY USA
Posts: 999
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dad View Post
RV is at the mechanics, He said the break being like it is in the picture is crazy stupid and it should not have been on the road other then driving it to a close mechanic. Was able to fix it. Other then that one he said the breaks look good.

I will try and go after the dealer. I think they should at least pay for all the broken stuff that was broken when I bought it. I did get a warranty but they called and said they won't pay for anything since it was a preexisting condition. So since it was broke when I bought it they are not paying for it. (why did I buy a warranty then?)

The tire dates are too old and will get that in the budget to replace.

Will take on a rust removal project in the spring.

The info in this thread and the others I have started had been great. Thanks for all of it. I hope I get to a point some day were I can help someone out. I am a new guy in all this rv stuff so learning and learning fast.
Pre existing? As in it was not road worthy when he sold you the RV?
If he is a registered dealer this wouldn't fly in my state. Is this an RV dealer or some fly by night used car hustler?
I would have a thorough inspection done by a reputable repair shop familiar with RV's for any defects. Especially safety items. How long a period is the "warranty" good for?
Lynn
__________________
LETMGROW is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2015, 05:12 AM   #27
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 97
Brake Chamber and Froze-up Clevis

When the clevis froze-up from lack of lube (a shot of WD-40), the air pressure in the brake chamber caused the rusted chamber to pull loose from the chamber bracket. It needs a new brake chamber (they come with a new clevis), but the push rod will have to be cut to get that 90* angle with brakes applied. The slack adjuster has a built-in mechanism that measures the stroke of the push rod. When the clevis froze-up, the auto-adjuster stopped working. This caused the over extension of the push rod.
So- a new brake chamber and slack adjuster and if the shoes have enough lining on them (1/4" min.), you should be good to go. Figure 2.5 hours labor, since they will pull the wheels- now would be a good time to replace them. Hopefully you won't need a brake drum.

I'm retired after 32 years mechanic with Roadway/Yellow, now YRC.
__________________
steamyb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2016, 10:54 AM   #28
Dad
Member
 
Dad's Avatar
 
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Cincinnati
Posts: 45
Wanted to update. Dealer is pretty much ignoring a BBB report and has stated in the report this is my fault for not bringing it back so they could fix it among many other items that needed fixed. Not sure how I can bring it back with only three breaks, plus the staff told me I could not bring it back since it was used.

I have the items all fixed now but it chaps me a bit that the dealer is allowed to sale units and say it all works and we inspected it. then find out later none of that was true. People say hire a lawyer, just the brake not being hooked up is enough reason to hire one people say but man that get's expensive. Anyone on here have experience with this kind of thing?
__________________

__________________
2001 Monaco Diplomat
350 Cummings
Allison Transmission
Dad is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
What is the worst thing you bought for your RV? JudyH Just Conversation 68 01-27-2015 07:06 PM
Need Opinions For Full Timing in Bad Weather dcarver Full-Timers 10 10-14-2014 05:49 PM
How bad is it in a MH when a bad storm hits? beamisl Just Conversation 6 08-10-2014 06:53 PM
Tires, TPMS and what is bad? raroberts Trailer Towing and Tow Vehicles Discussion 5 04-10-2014 09:31 AM

» Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Our Communities

Our communities encompass many different hobbies and interests, but each one is built on friendly, intelligent membership.

» More about our Communities

Automotive Communities

Our Automotive communities encompass many different makes and models. From U.S. domestics to European Saloons.

» More about our Automotive Communities

Marine Communities

Our Marine websites focus on Cruising and Sailing Vessels, including forums and the largest cruising Wiki project on the web today.

» More about our Marine Communities


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:44 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.