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Old 12-30-2010, 10:37 PM   #29
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Ranger,
Try removing the ground wire for the control module and cleaning it. You might get lucky.
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Thanks John, if the rain stops I'm going to do some more tests today. I have a feeling it is either going to be a ground issue or the control unit is shorting out internally. I'm also going to pull the motor and inspect it.

Here is a good write up on replacing the plastic rollers on the inside of the motor. I'll post this info here in case that link ever goes down. The replacement bushings are available at just about any parts store, Motormite/Help line or Dorman is the manufacturer, part number 74410. From prior experience with these type of motors the grease gets pretty hard inside and the plastic also breaks apart causing the motor to struggle to operate.



http://rx4rv.com/archives/89

I'll post more more once I get into it and hopefully come to a conclusion on it.
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Well I am kind of at a loss. After testing everything I think I have come to the conclusion the motor is shot. I did the testing on the plug connector from the coach and have power everywhere except the door jamb wire. I have 0 volts when the door is open or closed. I believe that this wire gets it's signal from the controller.

I have also ran a direct 12 volts to the motor while installed on the steps and it does not retract the steps all the way, so I also think the motor is shot. There is no binding of the steps, they move freely by hand in and out once the motor was removed.

It looks like the plan is to order a control module and a new motor. I will install the motor first and check to see if it operates. If not then I will install the new control unit.
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If you do need a motor here are some possible sources for inexpensive replacements I have saved from various threads over the years.

" 1) AM Equipment 402 E. Hazel St Jefferson, OR 97352, (541) 327-1546 the motor is $29 plus $7 shipping.

2) www.rvdealership.com that sells a repair parts kit made specifically for these units - includes gears.

3) Replacement step motor at AutoZone. It's a Siemens "Window Lift Motor", part number WL43003.

4) Autozone. The brand is "Siemens"
The ID tag lists the following numbers:
59720-20
121899

5) A 1986-1995 Ford Taurus left front window lift motor matched my motor. NAPA part # BK655-1395 $63.99 I ordered my motor from Auto-Zone Manufactured by Dorman part# 742-206. This has a lifetime Warranty and was $49.99. "

Also these guys rebuild the circuit boards: HERE
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Thanks for the tips Clay. I will probably order one from Autozone so I can get the lifetime warranty. Now if I can just find the control unit for under a $100 I'll be happy.
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Thanks for the tips Clay. I will probably order one from Autozone so I can get the lifetime warranty. Now if I can just find the control unit for under a $100 I'll be happy.
The guys in the last line of my post above charge $75 to rebuild your control board. So far I haven't heard of any problems with them.
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The guys in the last line of my post above charge $75 to rebuild your control board. So far I haven't heard of any problems with them.

The real old control unit's can be rebuild. Since late 98 early 99 they are full of epoxy and are not rebuildable.
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The guys in the last line of my post above charge $75 to rebuild your control board. So far I haven't heard of any problems with them.
Thanks again. If necessary I'll see if he can rebuild mine and also order a new one that way I have a spare. After plenty of research on the Kwikee steps it seems like they have a lot of problems.


I found this article which IMO gives a bit more detailed information on how the steps work and testing the wiring. After going over it I have one more test to do to verify wether it is the motor or the control unit.

http://www.rvweb.net/tech_lib/Quickee.html#operation
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Thanks again. If necessary I'll see if he can rebuild mine and also order a new one that way I have a spare. After plenty of research on the Kwikee steps it seems like they have a lot of problems.


I found this article which IMO gives a bit more detailed information on how the steps work and testing the wiring. After going over it I have one more test to do to verify wether it is the motor or the control unit.

Kwikee Step Tech Info
Thats a good site I filed it for future use.
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The real old control unit's can be rebuild. Since late 98 early 99 they are full of epoxy and are not rebuildable.
On the site they mention that some couldn't rebuilt but I didn't see any dates. I was hoping the later ones could be. Oh well...
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