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Old 01-30-2015, 02:58 PM   #57
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We were at Newmar factory a little while back, while looking over a coach, we noticed the overhead cabinets were smaller.
The one thing to consider between a modern coach and old non-slide model is that the headroom inside the slide is less, and therefore the overhead cabinets are smaller. Its a trade of storage volume for floor space, one most people are happy to make.
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Old 01-30-2015, 03:06 PM   #58
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Seems like a very straight forward solution.
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Old 01-30-2015, 03:10 PM   #59
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Old 01-30-2015, 06:50 PM   #60
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Wow!

I went to your site, and first, I have seen several similar models and was impressed with the huge windows. But WOW!!! what a great design for your bedroom/office! ... without carving workspace out of your living area!

Thanks for the compliment.

We had to remove the ugly TV enclosure over the bed to do it, but that was no great sacrifice.

And of import to this thread is that having the 7'6" ceiling was key to being able to do it at all. The tall ceiling is also what allows for big windows and extra storage up high.

I honestly don't understand why more manufacturers don't offer that combination. Maybe they think there's no demand for it, but that could be because people just don't realize it's even possible (as evidenced by the number of posts in this thread saying you have to sacrifice one for the other, but you really don't).
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We have looked at the new coaches for the last few years at the Hershey RV show where we could get a back-to-back look at the offerings from the major players. It definitely seems like some of them cater more towards those who need to live in their coaches for a extended period (lots of storage, more usable kitchen) of time vs those who will spend a week or 2 in it once in a while.
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Old 01-30-2015, 11:31 PM   #62
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The one thing to consider between a modern coach and old non-slide model is that the headroom inside the slide is less, and therefore the overhead cabinets are smaller. Its a trade of storage volume for floor space, one most people are happy to make.

They made the change between our year and the new models. Mostly for aesthetics, they added a valance to the top of the windows.

We would ditch the valance and make the overhead cabinets taller. Newmar has no problem doing this.

There would be no change in the window space, but significant storage difference.
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Another engineer heard from. How many cubic feet of storage do you have?
Sorry about suggesting quantifiable data so one could actually compare rather than bandying word about that are more subjective than substance.

I have a feeling if I went and measured all of my storage, which I am not really interested in doing, and gave a number you would throw out a number that is larger just to prove your point.
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On the internet, Gordon? Say it ain't so!!!!
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Sorry about suggesting quantifiable data so one could actually compare rather than bandying word about that are more subjective than substance.

I have a feeling if I went and measured all of my storage, which I am not really interested in doing, and gave a number you would throw out a number that is larger just to prove your point.
You got me wrong, Gordon. I just wanted to see if you would do it
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You got me wrong, Gordon. I just wanted to see if you would do it
Sorry - just the engineer and skeptic in me.
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Sorry - just the engineer and skeptic in me.
My father was an electronics engineer but was unable to communicate on my level or even interested. So, I make allowances for the engineer mentality. The more formal education, the more narrow the vision (generalization).
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My father was an electronics engineer but was unable to communicate on my level or even interested. So, I make allowances for the engineer mentality. The more formal education, the more narrow the vision (generalization).
I can sympathize. It must have been a difficult childhood.

Fortunately I worked for a small international consulting company. We had clients around the world. We developed and implemented leading edge and state of the art solutions for many clients including roadways, rail lines, hospitals, buildings, etc.

Suggesting the use of measurements to determine if old or new motorhomes have more storage space is a practical solution that anyone could come up with.
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After having been to a recent RV show, I'm disappointed more mfr's don't have the TV's on lifts like many Newmars do. Such a nice, clean look when not in use. They're finally getting away from the TV above the dash that's been a neck-wrenching chiropractic nightmare since the beginning. But most I saw the TV was either stuck to a mid-ship wall where it gets covered up when the slide comes in or was in the corner of a slide with a recliner so close to the big thing, I could practically see the individual pixels making up the picture. I want to be able to watch TV at times when my slides are in & without going cross-eyed sitting so close to an oversized TV.

I did get the chance to view a Tiffin 45LP (I think Phaeton). It was the only coach I saw with deep enough cabinets inside. Of course, that presents its own set of issues for me as I'm short & have to get a step stool to get to the back of the shallow cabinets in our Bounder. But should I strike it rich & am able to afford that coach, I can adjust.

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