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Old 01-31-2015, 05:47 PM   #1
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LED Conversions

I have recently started converting my coach to all LED, I was curious how many others have undertook this and where they found best to purchase the bulbs?
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M4 Products

Not the cheapest, but high quality.
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Old 01-31-2015, 10:26 PM   #3
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Just completed changing all the bulbs on the inside of the RV to LEDs, even used blue LEDs for the isle lights. purchased on ebay. Very happy with the results.
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LED Conversions

Another vote for M4. I personally have not had good luck with LED's sold on eBay. While M4 is more expensive than some of the stuff you will find on eBay (a lot of it is junk), they are less than most other reputable dealers. They also have a very liberal return policy, which is helpful when you're not sure what size bulb will fit your application. The owner, Steve is very friendly and helpful. First class dealer.

If you go to the RV Geeks website and watch the video on LED conversions, it will help a great deal in determining what color temp you might like best before you buy. It helped me a great deal. The video also gives a discount code for M4 Products.

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I just did the overhead fluorescent lights on our Dutch Star with strips of LED's I got from Amazon. Used the soft white as the DW hates the daylight or cool white ones. So far she hasn't even noticed the change so they passed the first test!!
If we end up with the Magna we just signed papers on yesterday I have to start all over as it has all Halogen and they're dimable.
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On the other end of the cost scale. We did this in our old Toyota several years ago and plan on doing the same thing in our "New to me" 2001 Mirada. We boondock a lot so rely on the battery. These LEDs consume about 1/10th the energy as a bulb, and produce about the same light and color as a bulb. We were very happy with them in the Toyota.

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If you go this route, don't use the double sticky tape, these LEDs do get warm and the tape will let go.

Search e-bay for "36-1210 SMD LED". I buy in quantity of 10 for less than $30. Make sure they are the "warm" white.
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I have converted most of my interior to LED,however, have not changed the 18" bulbs. I can not decide which type to purchase as there are some which are pug and play and others which require modifying wiring to the ballast.
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In the process and I buy LED's from multiple sources.
ECO-LED which you can find at many RV dealers, CW and such, around 19 bucks a pop, best I have found.

Chinease, 20 bucks a dozen ... Work well in some cases, total flops in others.
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I used chinese LED's from alibaba.com, but I got way too many dropouts. I have recently been buying from M4products and while not cheap, they do seem to make a reliable LED.
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If we end up with the Magna we just signed papers on yesterday I have to start all over as it has all Halogen and they're dimable.

Mr. D,

Not sure what year Magna you're buying so I don't know what style halogens it has, but so far I have not had any luck with dimable LED's in my ceiling halogen puck lights. I have tried several different light dealers including M4, but none of them I've tried will work properly with my coach's dimmer. Good luck and let me know if you find one that works for you.

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If we end up with the Magna we just signed papers on yesterday I have to start all over as it has all Halogen and they're dimable.
I'm another vote for M4Products! Steve is great to work with AND his LEDs are the highest quality you can get while still being a reasonable price. I've gotten my fair share of "crap" off of eBay and Amazon... and you really DO get what you pay for (that discount code someone else mentioned is "RVGEEKS5" by-the-way... saves you 5%... which may not seem like a lot, but it's better than nothing, LOL! ).

I don't know of ANY LEDs that will work with a standard incandescent (or halogen) dimmer. In "the old days", you could dim a bulb by lowering the voltage to it. But LEDs don't work that way... they either get enough voltage to be on (most good ones have a 10-30V operating range), or they're off.

In order to dim an LED, you need a PWM (Pulse-Width Modulation) dimmer. Basically, it pulses the power to the LED on-and-off so that it appears dimmer to the human eye. The pulsing happens so quickly that you don't detect it, but the light output is reduced. The tricky thing I have found in trying to get my puck light LED conversions to be dimmable is that the PWM dimmers need to be wired to both the positive (+) and negative (-) lead for each light connected to it in order to work properly. You can't just wire it to the positive lead of the light and a common ground. I don't want to wire a separate dimmer to each set of lights, so I'm still looking for a solution.

Many newer RVs with the multiplex wiring systems either already come with the module that can dim LED lights... or can be upgraded. So not sure how new the Magna you're looking at is... but you might be in luck if it's new enough.

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Forgot to mention, ours are in natural white and they work with the factory installed dimmer switch. I did notice on the newer model Discovery, they converted to LED, but scrapped the dimmer switches!
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Old 02-02-2015, 04:51 PM   #14
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Sorry for not responding sooner been traveling and not much time to get on here.

I am starting with interior and have found great deals from Brightech and ordered all they had. I had located the bulbs for the interior floods at camping world for over $20/ bulb, with Brightech same exact LED was $7.

I never realized until I started this conversion that I had over 40 just on the interior. I am doing it primarily because I like the light output, but I am trying to reduce the heat the current lights create.

At this point bedroom is complete and I am very happy.

I was very surprised the price difference.
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