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Old 10-26-2013, 10:08 AM   #15
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hey dan, try this. with the jacks down, activate the store process, and turn the hwh system off while there are still some red lights showing on the panel. with the jacks partially stored, start the engine, release the park brake, and put the trans in gear. touch the store button. the light should start flashing, and will stay on for approx six minutes before it shuts itself off. it has a time out feature built in so that after the last red light goes out, the control box will hold the solenoids open for six minutes. then shut off. the coach will not drop.
the hwh system is designed so that the store feature is the only one that will operate without the park brake set. let me know what happens. paul maddox
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Old 10-26-2013, 11:31 AM   #16
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Azpete, The system does lockout lowering the motor home if you are not in park. Good feature. That means I can turn on the HWH while driving and then press store. That should retract the one jack... and silence the alarm.

Doesn't solve the problem but a work around until I can find the fix for it. BTW, I took a picture of the springs but do not know how to post it.

I think I have included a picture of the springs/jack
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Old 10-27-2013, 11:42 AM   #17
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DL,

If your springs have a bee hive/tapered shape on the ends they are the revised stronger ones.

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Old 10-27-2013, 11:49 AM   #18
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Your retract time doesn't seem abnormal and as the weather gets colder they will get slower as the fluid thickens. I if you have an HWH systems you should have the "Stored" button ON as you are traveling.
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Old 10-27-2013, 12:39 PM   #19
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I remember camping in Williams ,AZ one winter and it took nearly 1/2 hour for the jacks to retract before alarm went off.
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I remember camping in Williams ,AZ one winter and it took nearly 1/2 hour for the jacks to retract before alarm went off.
Dumb question, but was that the only time it took that long to retract or was that the start of further problems? Did they return to normal once the temp rose? Good info to know cause problem usually starts with rear which has to push the thick fluid further and thru small lines.
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Old 10-27-2013, 02:55 PM   #21
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Hi Dan. I had problems with retracting my jacks on my last rig. In my case I had a bad "shuttle valve". As far as the jack dropping while driving is concerned I think I remember reading something about that in the owners manual. You could have a leaking solenoid valve. Many of the posts above have touched upon good points. The only one I challange is 26 minutes to store. Even in cold weather that seems like a copout by HWH. I have started using CRC Power Lube on my jacks and they seem fine. But I will not advise this as a practice for all just yet.

I have always understood that the DP should not move until the air is up to full pressure according to the gauges. The airbags must be fully inflated to bring the coach up to the correct travel height. Idling with the cruise fast idle feature is a good thing for a cold engine and it builds the air pressure quicker.
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Dumb question, but was that the only time it took that long to retract or was that the start of further problems? Did they return to normal once the temp rose? Good info to know cause problem usually starts with rear which has to push the thick fluid further and thru small lines.
It was the only time and I haven't touched them since. I notice on colder mornings they are slower because of the fluid being thicker .
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It always takes longer for the rear jacks to finish retracting on my coach. My repair guy says that is normal because there is more distance to the fluid chamber. Also, I too get the false alarm indicating the jacks are down when driving. The explanation I got from HWH is to let the control panel time out. However my control panel never turns off! So is it okay to drive with the system in "store" mode?
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My HWH jacks came up fine yesterday with the slow one being the right front. I suspect dirt is my issue.
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I have trouble w/ mine retracting from time to time. I carry a 2X4 to help raise one when it doesn't go up. It could be the left rear or left front. But most of the time they all come up. Go figure!!!
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Had a similar problem on our previous mh where a front jack would come up slow and stop before being fully retracted. Owners manual said 2-3 squirts of lithium based grease every 20-30 cycles. Sure enough, each jack had a grease zerk and that solved the problem.
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