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Old 06-04-2015, 03:55 PM   #1
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Looking for our first "A"

We've looked at about a dozen coaches so far in our quest for a DP.

We had an offer in on a 2000 Monaco Diplomat PBD 40' with Cummins ISC. We used RV Inspection Connection to determine that there was significant issue with water intrusion in the rear slide, issues with sidewall de-lamination due to water intrusion, very old tires, and a general lack of upkeep with roof sealing, etc.

We love the Monaco/HR/Safari/Beaver general layout of the 2 slide 40' coaches, however we are concerned about the slides now that we've seen several others Monaco coaches with water intrusion issues in the slides (specifically the rear bed slide).

Is this a common problem with slide units? Is it something Monaco related? Is this something that can be prevented I hope?

I am also interested in the Dutch Star 4095, but am not 100% clear the advantages and disadvantages of the Dutch Star 4095 vs a Diplomat of similar Vintage. Seems like some Dutch Star's are Cat, some Cummins. Is there a reason to go for one over the other?

Thanks in advance.

Hoping to get an "A" this year!
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We've looked at about a dozen coaches so far in our quest for a DP.

We had an offer in on a 2000 Monaco Diplomat PBD 40' with Cummins ISC. We used RV Inspection Connection to determine that there was significant issue with water intrusion in the rear slide, issues with sidewall de-lamination due to water intrusion, very old tires, and a general lack of upkeep with roof sealing, etc.

We love the Monaco/HR/Safari/Beaver general layout of the 2 slide 40' coaches, however we are concerned about the slides now that we've seen several others Monaco coaches with water intrusion issues in the slides (specifically the rear bed slide).

Is this a common problem with slide units? Is it something Monaco related? Is this something that can be prevented I hope?

I am also interested in the Dutch Star 4095, but am not 100% clear the advantages and disadvantages of the Dutch Star 4095 vs a Diplomat of similar Vintage. Seems like some Dutch Star's are Cat, some Cummins. Is there a reason to go for one over the other?

Thanks in advance.

Hoping to get an "A" this year!
Can't answer all your questions. I just sold a 10 year old Fleetwood product with 3 slides. There was no water intrusion problems at the slideouts at all, ever. The unit was outdoors 365 days a year.
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A lot of good used units out there but it depends on how they were maintained. Water penetration is like cancer to RVs. If you see any signs of water run unless you're very handy.

Not too sure about the CAT diesels since they stopped making them for road trucks and motor homes. You might want to check the availability of parts while on the road.

Buy a big tool box because all RVs require maintenance. Good Luck on your search!
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We've looked at about a dozen coaches so far in our quest for a DP.

We had an offer in on a 2000 Monaco Diplomat PBD 40' with Cummins ISC. We used RV Inspection Connection to determine that there was significant issue with water intrusion in the rear slide, issues with sidewall de-lamination due to water intrusion, very old tires, and a general lack of upkeep with roof sealing, etc.

We love the Monaco/HR/Safari/Beaver general layout of the 2 slide 40' coaches, however we are concerned about the slides now that we've seen several others Monaco coaches with water intrusion issues in the slides (specifically the rear bed slide).

Is this a common problem with slide units? Is it something Monaco related? Is this something that can be prevented I hope?

I am also interested in the Dutch Star 4095, but am not 100% clear the advantages and disadvantages of the Dutch Star 4095 vs a Diplomat of similar Vintage. Seems like some Dutch Star's are Cat, some Cummins. Is there a reason to go for one over the other?

Thanks in advance.

Hoping to get an "A" this year!

Monaco/ HR had a slide seal problem Water ran down the sides and right in poor design. My previous HR leaked like screen wire service tech told me about design.
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Newmar products are just some great products, and Dutch Star is one of the best in the 38-40 feet bracket. They were built and maybee today as well on Spartan chassis which is even bettrer then Freighliner.
My friend had a 40 foot Dutch Star with a 400 HP Cummins engine and that coach was handling and running perfectly; Newmar has the best slideouts system in the industry, locking slideourts wich you don't ear a sound while travelling.
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Cat can be more powerful, but it's a lot more expensive for parts and service (typically). In the vintage that you're looking for care will be primary over most traditional "defects". Any 10+ year old coach that isn't taken care of will get trashed if left out in the elements.

We looked at 30-40 coaches - most on consignment were trash - literally throw away. Easier to find good coaches through direct sales, but the "asking" prices vary wildly.... Keep at it, take your time, you'll find the right one.

Learn to spot water intrustion and delam yourself.. it'll save you some money.
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My 2008 Monaco Monarch does not leak - has two slides, bedroom and living area. You might post this on the Monaco owners site for more info.
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