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Old 01-19-2015, 06:56 PM   #15
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Originally Posted by PDR John View Post
Wanting something that can handle cold narrows the field to a few.

Used: Travel Supreme (Entegra), Newmar, Entegra, Triple E and Foretravel are the top insulators.
I'd suggest you strongly consider Country Coach ( Magna series) 2005 to 2006 should easily be within your price point, but in 2007 there were significant improvements. But even earlier coaches are excellent for "4 Season" use;
  • Most have heated full tile floors (electric radiant heat)
  • All have Aquahot - endless hot water, superior interior heating as well as engine block heating
  • Slide mechanizims much higher quality (note how minimal the flanges are overhanging the coach body)
  • One piece windshield that's structurally secured (not giant gasket/likely to allow pop-out issues)
  • Superior insulation

Also, an older Newell is probably even better built (air filled bladder seals ~ no awning toppers!)

Just my two cents.

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Old 01-19-2015, 07:01 PM   #16
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Originally Posted by PDR John View Post
For us Newmar won because of customizing, they built us what we wanted for the same price as everybody else.
That's why we've gone with Newmar twice so far.

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Old 01-20-2015, 03:05 PM   #17
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Why is no one mentioning American? They have been around a long time, have excellent histories, and great factory support!
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Old 01-20-2015, 04:29 PM   #18
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Welcome to iRV2... This is definitely the place to get good information as well as many opinions ....... We've learned so much here and are very thankful for the participation .........
We shopped for nearly a year and a half prior to purchasing our first/last coach. First priority was floor plan ... and there's lots to choose from. We were hung up on Monacos for quite a while until someone suggested Travel Supreme .... they were the head turner for us .... and in the end we found a private party with the coach we were supposed to be in. The unit was like new inside and out ... full documentation from day 1, and owned by some folks (who have become friends ... ya can't beat that) who used it only a few times each summer, stored and maintained in a climate controlled shop, we knew we hit the jack pot .... and though we had made a couple of offers prior on other coaches, this is where we ended up. So glad we took our time.
There some great coaches out there .... used IMO is the way to go as the units have been tested and shaken out ...
As you tour the coaches, you will know what fits you and what doesn't ... the best of the best have been named here ... and I have to agree with getting the most HP you can get if your towing. Our limit was set early at 450hp ... but knew we wanted all we could get ...
Good luck on your adventure ... and have fun!!! It can be a bit trying at times, but stay with your goals .... you'll know when you found the right one...
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Old 01-22-2015, 08:40 AM   #19
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Wow Smitty! Great feedback. Thanks for your time and useful information. Love the term surf-education! Even as a MSLS I had never heard that term! We are on track to buy a 2013 Entegra Anthem with 450hp Cummins. Big things for us: all tile heated, warranty, towing capacity,company reputation, insulation and new enough to have decent new features. Floor plan what we want. New buyers sure take a beating! $350k new and was $335 when new. With several extras we are getting for $250k with only 16,000 miles. Will keep dreaming of Foretravel level coach in future. Wanted to buy new enough to not have wife scared away by repair/warranty costs. And newer resulted in 30% lower cost of insurance - agent said because of safety features in 2013 versus 2006.... Thanks again Smitty for your time and valuable insights! Thanks to all other for comments too (accidntly this posted public instead of by private message to others - I, the newbie, will figure out posting soon!
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Old 01-22-2015, 09:12 AM   #20
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Thumbs up Thank you all very much!!

I wanted to "shout out" to all of you who responded with my gratitude for your feedback! I could tell there was a lot of good information on ivr2 but am blown away at the level of response to my request for feedback. A review of what I have learned here and with searching generally both on web and in person (along with follow up questions)

1) HP is important especially in mountains - 450 minimum. (What about torque?)
2) brand loyalty seems strong for Travel Supreme, Newmar, Entegra, Monaco, country Coach but ultimately like the BMW, Lexus, Mercedes or Ford, GM, Chrysler debate personal tastes are important. Isn't it wonderful to be in a country of competition and options are available!
3) cold weather - Entegra a top choice (what do Canadian Standards mean? - seems cold weather integrity would be an intuitive likely item).
4) there is a lot to learn! And will always be more! I can benefit from and have benefitted from ivr2!
5) insurance costs can be impacted by age of coach
6) Aqua hot is a must have
7) there is a lot of helpful folks here and even where opinions are expressed most folks do some kind of disclaimer!

Thanks again!
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Old 01-22-2015, 04:43 PM   #21
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Canadian standards just means it will meet import regulations of Canada. Day time running lights, speedometer reads in KM etc...
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Old 01-23-2015, 08:19 AM   #22
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Originally Posted by krivanj View Post
Why is no one mentioning American? They have been around a long time, have excellent histories, and great factory support!
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