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Old 05-18-2015, 08:50 AM   #15
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High end is:
Newmar, Tiffin, Winnebago. Gas or diesel.
My only problem with any of these is Winnebago has always had a problem with not putting enough clear coat paint on their coaches. If stored outside the paint starts to degrade in about 5 years. I've owned 2 Winnebagos in the last 20 years.

On a scale of 1 to 10. 1 being highest quality and 10 being the lowest.
7. Coachmen (Mirada)
5. Fleetwood (Bounder, Southwind)
6. Forest River (Georgetown)
4. Holiday Rambler (Vacationer)
1. Newmar (Bay Star, Canyon Star)
2. Tiffin (Allegro, Allegro Red)
8. Thor (Hurricane, Challenger)
3. Winnebago (Adventurer, Vista)
IMHO.
If buying new I would purchase an entry level diesel like the Allegro Red. Each manufacture has an entry level diesel and the price is not that much more than a gas coach. Much better ride and quieter. The price of diesel is not as volatile as gasoline. For instance: Our Gas prices have jumped around .80 in the last month and diesel has only increased .10 to .20 per gallon. That's .21 per ltr gas increase and .0006 to .052 increase per ltr for diesel. California right now has the highest fuel prices in the country. Gas is around a $1.00 per litre ($3.79gal) and diesel is .87 per litre ($3.10gal) average.
Good luck and have fun shopping.
Do ya really believe that Newmar, Tiffin and Winnebago are the high end of the DP's or are you just saying that they are more so, than the others on your list?
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Old 05-18-2015, 12:25 PM   #16
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Do ya really believe that Newmar, Tiffin and Winnebago are the high end of the DP's or are you just saying that they are more so, than the others on your list?

I believe the OP asked regarding class A gas.


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I believe the OP asked regarding class A gas.


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Yes, he most definitely did, but the person I quoted and asked for clarification made this statement...
"....High end is: Newmar, Tiffin, Winnebago. Gas or diesel...."
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Got it.


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Yeah but they really are not the high end of the diesels. ;-) Not saying they are bad but that one can go a lot higher.

I'd go with the gasser the way he wants to use it and given the money he wants to spend. Couple year old Newmar or Tiffin or new Winnebago after the dealing is done and assuming a floor plan he can live with. There are a lot of floor plans I would not pick for two people and maybe two guests on occasion.
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Yeah but they really are not the high end of the diesels. ;-) Not saying they are bad but that one can go a lot higher.

I'd go with the gasser the way he wants to use it and given the money he wants to spend. Couple year old Newmar or Tiffin or new Winnebago after the dealing is done and assuming a floor plan he can live with. There are a lot of floor plans I would not pick for two people and maybe two guests on occasion.
Keep in mind his peremeters which will limit his choices, new and used. "We are looking for gas, class A. Price range about $100,000. This vacation we have seen a lot new and used. Young used are still expensive, we are not looking for 10 year used to avoid the little by little problems. So we consider new."
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In his price range for a new rig was what I was alluding to. Yes there is much higher end in coaches. I watched a utube video on the new Nexus DP. For the price and what you get it's not bad. It's copairable price wise to a high end gas rig.
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Thank you all for your input.

I wished a NEW DP would be available for 100K.
If I compare the price for exemple a new gas Newmar Country Star 3650 and diesel Dutch Star 3745 the msrp is almost double. 175k / 325k
I hope I compare an apple with an apple as far as the difference betwen gas and diesel can be compared.
Even for the Canyon Star I have to win the lottery.
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FYI -- May still not be enough but you should be able to negotiate a discount on a new MH of 25-30% off the MRSP. 28% of $175,000 is $40,000 bringing it to $124,000. Closer to $100k. Good luck.
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low end, high end coach.... its all based on price point.... that is where it all starts.
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IMHO Hans you can't buy a decent Coach to live in for much under $150,000. Last month's Motor home Magazine had an article with 10 entry level diesels. Yes they run in the high 100s. My advise is negotiate, negotiate and negotiate. Or buy something well kept and used with manufacture in the mid 2000s. There are some good deals to be had out there on some mid to high level coaches.
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I have that issue here and all 8 were around $200,000 with the Nexus being about $180,000 and the Itasca, Newmar and Winnebago going over $220,000.
Finding a used high end coach is a good way to go too. You can find a 6 year old unit like our Magna for less than half the original cost which made it affordable to us.
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The problem is the fixation on diesels. There is a lot of money in the engine/transmission, frame and tires to handle it that is not in the gassers. Yes, one settles for a bumpier ride and more noise but gets as good a house at a lot less money. We pick our poisons in life.

FWIW if he is flexible and does his homework he might get more Motor Home for his money on a slightly used unit.
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I purchased my Kountry Star for a 1\4 of the orginal price. Put 15k into refurbishing and I'm still at wholesale value. So yes it can be done. The other problem with purchasing a new gas coach is (don't kill me here die hard Ford guys) your chassis choices are Ford, Ford or Ford and I hate being boxed in.
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