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07-28-2018, 04:05 AM
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To the OP. I was in the same situation when we first bought our RV. I ended up buying the cheapest 1" long shank impact Amazon had to offer. It was not very expensive but did require a half inch air hose. My very first job was changing big truck tires so I have probably removed hundreds if not thousands of tire. I would never trust anything half inch to properly tighten a lug nut on a big truck. Good luck.
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07-28-2018, 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by BigLar368
To the OP. I was in the same situation when we first bought our RV. I ended up buying the cheapest 1" long shank impact Amazon had to offer. It was not very expensive but did require a half inch air hose. My very first job was changing big truck tires so I have probably removed hundreds if not thousands of tire. I would never trust anything half inch to properly tighten a lug nut on a big truck. Good luck.
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Would have to agree 1/2 " just want get it done. 3/4 " if it's a name brand gun with plenty of air will be min required.
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07-28-2018, 05:58 AM
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I would never attempt a truck tire with a 1/2" gun.
Original post I was deciding between 1/2 or 3/4.
I think the 3/4 should do the job, going to give this one a try.
https://www.harborfreight.com/34-in-...nch-60808.html
Thanks For suggestions.
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07-28-2018, 06:01 AM
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From the sounds of it, I have just about the same tools that Fire-Up has to remove the tires. I must say the tire dolly is a back saver. On a hard surface you can easily and safely remove the tire, and wheel it away. But its real value comes in putting the wheel assembly back on. Just roll it up to the hub, turn the tire until the holes line up with the studs and slip it on.
Fire-Up, you mentioned
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But, that tool is for BREAKING THEM LOOSE ONLY! You cannot use it for torquing them down. For that, you need a quality 3/4" drive clicker type torque wrench.
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Curious, why do you say that? I use a Proto Torque multiplier (bought it back in the day when Ebay used to actually have bidding for items) and I calculated what torque I needed to get the 450 ft-lbs. What am I missing?
I've only removed the wheel assembly probably 25 times for various things and nowhere near your record breaking "zillion times for those lug nuts".
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07-28-2018, 06:36 AM
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I have that air wrench for a number of years and it has worked well for me. Used it on my semi when I was an owner operator and now the motorhome. I have a professional 80 gal air compressor and 1/2" hose, but my son operates his with 3/8' hose and has no problem removing lug nuts
Tom
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07-28-2018, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Bigd9
From the sounds of it, I have just about the same tools that Fire-Up has to remove the tires. I must say the tire dolly is a back saver. On a hard surface you can easily and safely remove the tire, and wheel it away. But its real value comes in putting the wheel assembly back on. Just roll it up to the hub, turn the tire until the holes line up with the studs and slip it on.
Fire-Up, you mentioned
Curious, why do you say that? I use a Proto Torque multiplier (bought it back in the day when Ebay used to actually have bidding for items) and I calculated what torque I needed to get the 450 ft-lbs. What am I missing?
I've only removed the wheel assembly probably 25 times for various things and nowhere near your record breaking "zillion times for those lug nuts".
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Hey Pete,
This is one of those things where, yes, I too could have calculated what MIGHT be close to the proper torque by "Building" some sort of system with long handles and a 1/2" torque wrench or, maybe the tool you're using but, to me, and this is purely my opinion, a proper torque wrench, like the 3/4" drive clicker 100-600 lb. KD model I have, is the most accurate way to go.
I got lucky on ebay when I was searching and found mine for $75. But, I'd easily pay twice that for the same wrench, knowing what I know and how I do things. Even though that torque wrench is used on a very, very infrequent basis, I'd buy it again in a heartbeat, in order to do the job the way I like to.
This is a choice thing. Whatever anyone feels either the "correct" or, proper tool for the job and, it works for them, then that's all that counts.
Scott
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07-28-2018, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by DjDave
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Max. torque is 1000 ft. lb. and that is with adequate air. 450-500 ft. lb. will take every bit of it to break loose.
I have this one and 1/2" hose and still had trouble breaking a few loose..
https://www.harborfreight.com/1-in-p...nch-62355.html
Save yourself a little time and trouble, follow the advise of FIRE UP. he knows what he is talking about. I just went through this because of a leaking inner front hub seal.
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07-28-2018, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by FIRE UP
Hey Pete,
This is one of those things where, yes, I too could have calculated what MIGHT be close to the proper torque by "Building" some sort of system with long handles and a 1/2" torque wrench or, maybe the tool you're using but, to me, and this is purely my opinion, a proper torque wrench, like the 3/4" drive clicker 100-600 lb. KD model I have, is the most accurate way to go.
I got lucky on ebay when I was searching and found mine for $75. But, I'd easily pay twice that for the same wrench, knowing what I know and how I do things. Even though that torque wrench is used on a very, very infrequent basis, I'd buy it again in a heartbeat, in order to do the job the way I like to.
This is a choice thing. Whatever anyone feels either the "correct" or, proper tool for the job and, it works for them, then that's all that counts.
Scott
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Your right of course. I did check my calculations once with a borrowed 3/4 inch torque wrench and they were spot on. I guess maybe I should ask for a bigger torque wrench for my birthday, or give up working on the heavy tires.......... na, what fun would that be ?
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07-28-2018, 02:48 PM
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[QUOTE=Isaac-1;4315564]As mentioned a 1/2 inch impact will be marginal, depending on the model. I have Blue Point (Snap On's B brand) AT570 that will do it, though barely, it is rated at 570 ft-lb.[/QUO
I have an Milwaukee battery operated 1/2 in drive that is 1100fp off and 800fp on. It will do all 40 lugnuts without even breathing hard.
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07-29-2018, 04:58 AM
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Just re-read what I posted, should have been deciding between 3/4" & 1" gun.
Going to go with the 3/4", if that don't take them off, I'l trade up to a 1".
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07-29-2018, 05:29 AM
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[QUOTE=VegasFoodGuy;4316966]
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Originally Posted by Isaac-1
As mentioned a 1/2 inch impact will be marginal, depending on the model. I have Blue Point (Snap On's B brand) AT570 that will do it, though barely, it is rated at 570 ft-lb.[/QUO
I have an Milwaukee battery operated 1/2 in drive that is 1100fp off and 800fp on. It will do all 40 lugnuts without even breathing hard.
Terry
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What size wheels / lugs?
My Monaco has truck wheels, (22.5 rims).
I don't see a 1/2" gun doing that.
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07-29-2018, 05:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DjDave
Just re-read what I posted, should have been deciding between 3/4" & 1" gun.
Going to go with the 3/4", if that don't take them off, I'l trade up to a 1".
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Sounds good. Let us know how it goes. Be safe
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07-29-2018, 06:23 AM
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Just had new front tires mounted and balanced yesterday at a truck service center. Tech used a 1/2" drive impact for all lug nut removal. 3/4" break-over torque wrench for re-installation.
I agree with VegasFoodGuy - I'm confident my Milwaukee 2763 M18 1/2" drive impact would remove all 40 lug nuts with a single 5.0 amp hour battery. I kind of wish I had taken it along yesterday to test it out. I'm referring to 22.5" wheels on a Safari (Monaco) DP for this discussion BTW.
The newer brushless battery operated tools are amazing in terms of power and battery life. The only reason I have a compressor anymore is for filling tires and painting.
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07-29-2018, 06:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by luvlabs
Ok, you have the wheel off, how do yo plan to deal with the 250 lb beast? You sure won’t be lifting it back on the hub.
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I often used a simple hand truck to lift and remove the 1200X24 truck tires.
That was after pulling my back out twice, being the hand truck. Age has a way of teaching you things.
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