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Old 05-19-2012, 03:47 PM   #57
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Wink I think I got lucky!

I think I got lucky. Someone on the daughter inlaws side of the familly had an RV repair shop. It is no longer running but I spoke to him and he is willing to help for a fee. This is great since he has all the body work and painting equipment we will need! He said he'll come and see me some time this week so we can figure out what needs to be done and how much he will charge me an hour. He also has upplies his paint that he said we can get for a good price!

I would still like to know what the exact problem of collor seperation is! Are you saying that the tint has seperated from the base and it looks like a can of paint that was incorrectly stirred?

I look forward to hearing from you soon.
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Yes, the appearance seems to be some darker shades just a slight darker tint in a few areas. I didn't have time today to pull it outside as we had a large gathering at one of the many lakes and anytime I can show off my vintage restored Checkmate sport boat I do so we played on he water.

Tomorrow were going to remove the front windshield paper and pull the MH outside in the light. This will give me a better determination if we want to paint 1 more coat or sand and use a different color. Frankly I like the idea of using a metallic paint as I think it does provide a richer appearance.
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Old 05-20-2012, 01:42 AM   #59
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I might be wrong, but i think that is normal in small amounts. the flake sorta 'settles'.. I repaired a van that was metallic silver once and thought it was ruined when it did that. Few days drying time and a compound rub and it virtually disappeared. After another week, I never saw it again

If it really gets on your bad side, you can always do a light 'last coat' then clear. A good clear coat should help 'even' it all out..

If it looks more like 'sagging', stripped, or 'mottling' then you prolly used too much reducer, sprayed too wet, or too close..
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I might be wrong, but i think that is normal in small amounts. the flake sorta 'settles'.. I repaired a van that was metallic silver once and thought it was ruined when it did that. Few days drying time and a compound rub and it virtually disappeared. After another week, I never saw it again

If it really gets on your bad side, you can always do a light 'last coat' then clear. A good clear coat should help 'even' it all out..

If it looks more like 'sagging', stripped, or 'mottling' then you prolly used too much reducer, sprayed too wet, or too close..

I know what sagging s, but please clarify stripping and mottling for me.

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Old 05-20-2012, 08:32 AM   #61
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Nice job on showing us pictures! Keep them coming!
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Old 05-20-2012, 01:11 PM   #62
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I removed the windshield masking paper and drove the coach down the ramp out the building into the sun. Now I'm not so disappointed in the color, not really seeing the seperation so much now. I do think it needs a clear coat sprayed but I don't see any reason to shoot a new color. We have a small sagging as I mentioned before but I can fix that and we're shooting that back section a burgundy metallic color over the diver so it should be fixable.

I took some pictures which I will post tomorrow from my iMac in the office.
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Good to hear, I a feeling when it got to the sun it would look better.
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from a retired body man ( also a tech) Stripping is when the metallic particles are just in the center of the spray pattern from your gun. This is normal with all metallic paints as the particles are heavier than the base color. This is avoided by overlapping your spray passes to cover the stripping. Mottling is when to much paint is applied that is reduced to much. Just before running, the metallic particles, being heavier than the base paint tend to stick together.kindove like sawdust on water the dust sticks together and so the metallic particles stick together.
Both conditions can be reduced or eliminated by insuring the proper paint viscosity and appliying many light coats.
I have used basecoat clearcoat paints and like to mix the metallic and any pearls in the first clear coat. This will prevent the pigment solids from "fighting" with the metallic chosen. I hope this helps.
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Thank you "Stink", if I'm to understand you correctly your suggestion would be to do another coat with a mixture of both the top coat color and clear coat combined in the same pot? Then do we follow up with another just straight clear coat followed up in 30-40 minutes when that coat flashes?

Looking at it in the light yesterday as I indicated it actually looks fine, I agree it needs a clear coat to make it a bit more rich in appearance but the separation I was seeing is much less now that the paint has cured and looking at it in the light.

There is another color that is being followed up with this silver which is a dark metallic red called Salsa Red. Its a maroon color that will be going around the lower section where the basement doors are and the bumpers. This is the area of course that is exposed in the picture as were rebuilding these doors now. I'm also considering taking this dark color and going up about 2' up from the doors and painting this color in about a 6" strip all the way from the front to the back. Intersect that strip with what I invision to be the rear quartes to be done in red, wrapping it around the back keeping the back the red and coming around the other side. The side rear section of the coach being a triangle of the red if you will, the line meets that triangle.

Not sure on all that yet, I don't want it to look cheesy, Im just trying to break up the silver some so it isn't so dominant on the side. Some more artistic graphic designs like are on most motorhomes would be ideal but I have no idea how to paint that design as creating the pattern in masking paper then attaching it to the coach is way beyond my skill. I may even take the other route and just pay someone to create and install that type graphic design in vinyl. I would much rather paint it that way and clear coat it but I don't know how. It's much to expensive in time labor and materials to screw it up and make it look stupid.

The back and the rear bumper still has the primer on it. I had not ordered the second color until we finished the silver to make sure I knew which color to go with.

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Thank you "Stink", if I'm to understand you correctly your suggestion would be to do another coat with a mixture of both the top coat color and clear coat combined in the same pot? Then do we follow up with another just straight clear coat followed up in 30-40 minutes when that coat flashes?

Looking at it in the light yesterday as I indicated it actually looks fine, I agree it needs a clear coat to make it a bit more rich in appearance but the separation I was seeing is much less now that the paint has cured and looking at it in the light.

There is another color that is being followed up with this silver which is a dark metallic red called Salsa Red. Its a maroon color that will be going around the lower section where the basement doors are and the bumpers. This is the area of course that is exposed in the picture as were rebuilding these doors now. I'm also considering taking this dark color and going up about 2' up from the doors and painting this color in about a 6" strip all the way from the front to the back. Intersect that strip with what I invision to be the rear quartes to be done in red, wrapping it around the back keeping the back the red and coming around the other side. The side rear section of the coach being a triangle of the red if you will, the line meets that triangle.

Not sure on all that yet, I don't want it to look cheesy, Im just trying to break up the silver some so it isn't so dominant on the side. Some more artistic graphic designs like are on most motorhomes would be ideal but I have no idea how to paint that design as creating the pattern in masking paper then attaching it to the coach is way beyond my skill. I may even take the other route and just pay someone to create and install that type graphic design in vinyl. I would much rather paint it that way and clear coat it but I don't know how. It's much to expensive in time labor and materials to screw it up and make it look stupid.

The back and the rear bumper still has the primer on it. I had not ordered the second color until we finished the silver to make sure I knew which color to go with.

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That after picture would be a very interesting way to travel down the road. Just kidding. Keep the pictures coming it looks like a great project.
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Just think, people would let me change lanes and merge, and MH's near us would relocate so we would have privacy, and the state police would never get a radar bead on the coach as it has stealth technology!
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Very cool project. I can't wait to see mor pictures.
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JChet, I would not recomend mixing any color into the clear. The automotive paint store will have metallic additive for the clear, just metalflake in a jar. The paint you used is not a basecoat/clearcoat product so if you wanted to clearcoat you will need to sand the basecoat. use 600 grit or finer with water and SAND BY HAND. lots of work. If you are happy with the paint then do nothing and enjoy. Still, cool project and I wish I had a shop space large enough for me to paint my coach!!!!
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Sorry, on a tablet atm and hard to google pics.. Stripping is as it sounds and described above. Mottling is also like it sounds.. As I posted, time and the final compound/polish will do wonders.. Yor paint actually looks pretty good in the pics..
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