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05-25-2009, 05:09 PM
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After 25 years and nearly 500,000 miles I've never wore out a tire; either blew them out or replaced them; I never rotated a tire (waste orf time and money.
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05-25-2009, 10:53 PM
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Fleetwood Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Originally Posted by JimM68
Tell him that if you wish, he owns a store that does nothing but truck tires, I will choose to believe he knows what he's talking about.
All 6 tires are identical, same model & size, same age, identical except for some barely noticable wear on the outside edge of the tread.
He chose to rotate them so they would all still turn in the same direction. Fronts to opposite side rear inners, rear inners to opposite side rear outers, rear outers to opposite side fronts.
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If that's the case he did it wrong - the left front tire turns the same direction as the left rear inner tire. The front wheel has the convex side out, which matches the rear inner wheel, so moving the front directly to the inner rear on the same side means the tire rotates the same direction. If you move it to the inner on the other side it'll be rotating the other direction.
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2007 Bounder 35E being pushed by a 2020 Jeep Gladiator Sport S or a 2022 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited (JLU) Sport S
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05-30-2009, 04:45 PM
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If, and only if, you decided to rotate tires make sure you do not change the direction they have been running, especially if your tires are like mine. I run Michelin tires (275X80X22.5) which have rotational arrows on them and they run in that direction only if you are to optimize their wear (and who ever tells you that it does not matter on the rear duals --- have him talk directly to Michelin -- they will straighten the person out -- if it was not important, they would not put the arrows on the tires). Balancing and allignment are where I spend my money. I think that one will find out that you will never wear out a tire on a motorhome before it is tiem to change due to weathering and age.
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05-31-2009, 05:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JimM68
Tell him that if you wish, he owns a store that does nothing but truck tires, I will choose to believe he knows what he's talking about.
All 6 tires are identical, same model & size, same age, identical except for some barely noticable wear on the outside edge of the tread.
He chose to rotate them so they would all still turn in the same direction. Fronts to opposite side rear inners, rear inners to opposite side rear outers, rear outers to opposite side fronts.
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I don't think that radials are supposed to be rotated to opposite side front to rear. I always heard that radials were supposed to rotate front to back on the same side.
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05-31-2009, 05:51 AM
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I don't think that radials are supposed to be rotated to opposite side front to rear. I always heard that radials were supposed to rotate front to back on the same side.
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I think you have that backwards, randco. It was bias ply tires that were rotated front to back.
You will find all kinds of expert opinions on the right way to rotate and whether rotation is economically justified or even effective for modern tires. My own opinion is that tires should be rotated only if there are noticeable wear patterns and the choice of straight back vs side-side depends on the type of wear. Changing the side reverses the direction of rotation and can help distribute wear to the opposite side of a tire.
If you Google 'radial tire rotation' you will find all sorts of "expert" advice & not-so-exert opinions on tire rotation (or not).
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05-31-2009, 12:53 PM
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It seems that most articles always recommend following the vehicle manufacturers owners manual.
Here is an article from Road & Track magazine.
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06-06-2009, 04:45 PM
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Monaco Owners Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by randco
I don't think that radials are supposed to be rotated to opposite side front to rear. I always heard that radials were supposed to rotate front to back on the same side.
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I may have had my "description" backwards. They were careful to put the tires where they would rotate the same direction they always have.
If I had a new MH, and I knew the tires were properly balanced, I certainly would never do a rotation just for rotations sake. I would rebalance every 20k miles though (assuming the tires were not too "old") and would rotate at that time just because.
In my case this time, I'd just bought it, and it seemed good insurance to balance the tires. Rotating them was because of the slight unusual wear.
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06-11-2009, 05:42 PM
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"Formerly Diplomat Don"
Newmar Owners Club
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JimM68....Nancylactic was correct. Your neighbor deals with truck tires that wear out quickly because of use and they change tires and positions often. On a motor home it's NOT a good idea to mix front and rear tires. The fronts generally wear faster than the rears. When you mix them together, one is actually smaller in diameter (front) and scuffs the pavement as you drive. The scuffing causes heat and heat causes blowouts. Will you get away with rotating them the way you did.....probably....but I wouldn't make a practice of it.
One of the big no no's is to put a new tire on with an old dual. On a six wheel motor home, you should always replace in pairs. Front blowout....two new front tires, right rear blowout.....both right rear duals...etc
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06-11-2009, 07:15 PM
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Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Reading this thread I can understand why so many people have tire trouble. Do as you tire manufacture indicates.
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