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Old 06-09-2015, 04:43 PM   #15
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OTOH, how much more can it be if you amortize the total cost over 7 years?
Why is everyone "stuck" on 7 years? Even the tire manufacturers don't say that and they'd love to sell more tires.
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Old 06-09-2015, 04:45 PM   #16
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Why is everyone "stuck" on 7 years? Even the tire manufacturers don't say that and they'd love to sell more tires.

Just my choice. My money. My risk. And about the cost of one tire per year.
Some look at the cost as one big lump. I see cost over time and save my sheckles
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Old 06-09-2015, 05:21 PM   #17
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Joe, because of the well known G670 rivering problem, I'd stay away from them.

Have you priced Toyo's or Hankook's? Both are excellent tires and are much cheaper than Michelin.

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Old 06-09-2015, 06:31 PM   #18
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Joe,

I think you should expand your search beyond Michelin and Goodyear.

I think there are tire manufacturers out there that offer better.

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Joe.....stay away from the G670, especially up front and especially on a Roadmaster chassis. I would go with the Michellin if that's all that is available. I really liked the Hankooks on my Monaco, but they're not offered in your size. I would give the Toyos a try.

My personal opinion......the FMCA program is for people who don't like to dicker over prices or shop around. Buying tires is all about the tire store who got the best deal on the last batch they bought.
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Why is everyone "stuck" on 7 years? Even the tire manufacturers don't say that and they'd love to sell more tires.
I ran my original Michelins for 10 and 1/2 years. There was no reason to pull them off except for age.
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WOW, am I confused! I spent most of yesterday researching this thing, checking prices, specs, reviews, etc!

I have Goodyear G670RV on there now. They are 7 years old and not a sign of dry rot or any other problems. It seems that the main problem with Goodyear is the "rivering" thingy. What exactly is this? I don't remember any reports on them blowing out. Has anyone had any problems with Goodyears bought in the last couple of years or so? Is it possible that they have that problem solved?

Now for the Michelins! It seems the big thing about them is the sidewalls blowing out. That scares me! Again, has anyone had that problem on tires bought in the last couple of years?

I'm also looking at Bridgestone. Any opinions on them?

I really appreciate all your comments!
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I'm running the Bridgestones on the front. I'm not at the coach now for exact model but they've been on since 2012 and I've had this coach one year. They look good and drive well. I would use them again. I have Dunlaps on drivers and am happy with them also. I would also look at Toyo or Yokohama's. YMMV


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WOW, am I confused! I spent most of yesterday researching this thing, checking prices, specs, reviews, etc!

I have Goodyear G670RV on there now. They are 7 years old and not a sign of dry rot or any other problems. It seems that the main problem with Goodyear is the "rivering" thingy. What exactly is this? I don't remember any reports on them blowing out. Has anyone had any problems with Goodyears bought in the last couple of years or so? Is it possible that they have that problem solved?

Now for the Michelins! It seems the big thing about them is the sidewalls blowing out. That scares me! Again, has anyone had that problem on tires bought in the last couple of years?

I'm also looking at Bridgestone. Any opinions on them?

I really appreciate all your comments!

Hey Joe,

I'm about a year away from your situation. I'll look at all the major manufacturers but for steer tires I'll stay away from the G670. Just too many "river wear" reports. River wear is the accelerated wear of the 2nd rib in from the tire shoulder. It can be either edge but is usually the outside. May also be somewhat scalloped. It seems to be with heavier front axles. Good years only fix has been to suggest running at max inflation pressure. Goodyear also still builds the Marathon LHS. It's a great motorhome tire but never seems to be available in the U.S. My coach had them as OEM and I replaced them at 8 years and 70k miles. They still looked great. They were built in Germany & may still be.

The sidewall blow out problem with Michelin was only with the XRV series tire which aren't built in 295/80 size anyway.

These commercial tire stores have lots of pricing latitude and often see us motorhomes guys as an ATM. If you can find a manager at one of these big stores and talk him up him a little bit, he might give you a price break. You've alway got the FMCA price in your back pocket.

I would consider any of the major national brands.
1. Michelin
2. Bridgestone
3. Continental
4. Toyo
5. Yokohama
6. Hankook

I'm not ready to look at the 2nd tier of Asian tires like Double Coin but I know others do.


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On another forum I participate on, one of the members is a retired CEO from a major tire company with over 45 years in the tire business.

FWIW here are the tires he says he would consider putting on his coach, in no particular order:
Bridgestone, BFG (owned by Michelin), Continental, Falken/Otshu, Firestone, General, Michelin, Sumitomo, Toyo, Yokohama
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I would bypass the Goodyear G670 also. We just had to switch our fronts to the tag as they we're starting to river bad enough by 17k miles to warrant it. Had Henderson's check our front end alignment at the same time and it was ok.

They definitely didn't have anything good to say about the GoodYears


I think we'll be replacing the steer tires sometime in the next year as I imagine the tag axle tires that we put on the front will river also by then.
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I just pulled the goodyears off the front of my coach do to the tire wear. Replaced with the XZA2's on the FMCA program at $ 520.38 ea. 275/70R 22.5 I would stay away from good year as well. I have XZA2 all around now and real happy with them. Date codes on the new tires were only 8 weeks old.
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When I bought this RV it had Michelins and they had severe sidewall cracks so I replaced them with G670's. The G670 tires on the front did start rivering so I had them rotated to the rear. Before driving to Alaska last year I replaced the G670's with Michelins XZE's using the FMCA purchase program at Henderson's in Grants Pass. I have more than 20K miles on these with no visible signs of wear. The RV is stored inside so the tires only get sun when traveling. As a side note I had to have the speedometer/odometer recalibrated at a Cat shop after the change. Revolutions per mile were different.
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I just talked with a tech support guy at Bridgestone. I told him about the "rivering" problem with the Goodyears, and he tells me that the "rivering" occurs to some extent in all tires, and that it is nothing to be concerned about!

He recommended their R283 for steer tires, but after looking at the specs I found it does not come in my size (295-80R-22.5) !
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