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Old 08-26-2015, 05:07 AM   #15
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I already knew that loading and unloading was going to be an issue due to the height as even the videos do not show the bikes being completely loaded. Watching the videos is like watching a Seinfeld episode where they simple "yada-yada" over that part.
I am waiting for the lift to see what I can do with the floor and look into replacing the stock chock with the one that I make as mine completely secures the bike and has springs to aid in the removal of bike as well. My chock is really meant to secure bikes to trailer floors but hopefully I can adapt it for this lift for myself. I also use it to stand bike up in garage for more room as well.
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Old 08-26-2015, 05:08 AM   #16
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I didn't want to add any additional length to the coach.
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Lenny-Shawna, I see you are in FL..... who are you having do the install ?
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Old 08-26-2015, 08:29 AM   #18
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Anyone know if the Hydralift will work on a Workhorse gasser?
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Old 08-26-2015, 08:44 AM   #19
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I think your challenge there would be one of a weight issue. Too much weight on the back will not work well.
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I assume the OP has done the calculations for the weight that will transfer to the rear axle with 1000-1100# hanging 2' behind the frame. I had a lift on an 03 Phaeton several years ago and had to go to larger tires. (the 03's came with 255X80/22.5) I don't remember the figures, but when loaded, it was over the 20,000# axle rating. Nothing ever happened, but I held my breath every time I hit a dip in the road that turned the 1100# load into 2000#+ force.
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Scott,
I already knew that loading and unloading was going to be an issue due to the height as even the videos do not show the bikes being completely loaded. Watching the videos is like watching a Seinfeld episode where they simple "yada-yada" over that part.
I am waiting for the lift to see what I can do with the floor and look into replacing the stock chock with the one that I make as mine completely secures the bike and has springs to aid in the removal of bike as well. My chock is really meant to secure bikes to trailer floors but hopefully I can adapt it for this lift for myself. I also use it to stand bike up in garage for more room as well.
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Lenny,
Funny you should mention the chock. Hydralift sells, as an option, an "over-center" wheel chock, that virtually locks the front tire against the stop. Well, they wanted, at that time, around $160.00 for that option. So, I "MacGuyvered" my own. Basically, I have a Condor Wheel chock system I use on occasion. The over-center part of that chock, was almost perfect for fitting into the rail, on the Hydralift. So, I looked up that part on Condors website and, yahoo, it's only $67.00. So, I used that part on the Hydralift. That way, the bike is captured and, I can step off the bike without putting down any kickstand etc. Works really slick. And, I can replace it for replacement to my Condor system for a lot less.

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Well Sir, outfitting a Hydralift onto a Gas coach could present a few problems. While you may, have the available steel/frame/space etc. to actually mount it, it's more than likely your coach could not survive the added weight of both the lift and the bike. You see, loading some extra heavy weight, right over the back axle is not all that bad, depending on what's available after the coach and axles are loaded, for a trip.

But, what you're in effect doing when you add the lift and, the bike to that section is, you're adding "Cantilevered" weight. And that means, and this is not easy to calculate, no matter who has it on a website, you're adding more weight, than YOU'RE ADDING!!! Huh????

Well, long story short, what you see in my pictures are, a bike that weighs right around 900 lbs. and, the lift hovers in the neighborhood of, 375 +. So, you're basically looking at, plus or minus, 1,300 lbs. But, in all reality, I added 2,100 lbs. to the rear of that coach. I was over the GAWR of the rear axle by quite a bit.

No one died, the sun and the moon are still rotating around the earth, and, all the rest of the apocalypse that I was told was going to happen, NEVER HAPPENED! That coach ran straight and level, without wandering, no porpoising, no ill handling effects what so ever. And I did it that way for well over 8,000 miles, all over the western U.S. I knew that the frame and coach would handle the over-weight condition. What I could not pre-determine was how well the tires would.

So, after many, many miles and lots of fun hauling the Wing that way, we changed our "M.O." as cops would say.

But, you don't say what kind of Gasser you have but, in your case, I'd do some serious thinking before any commitment in this direction. For gassers, there's alternatives but, it all depends on your train of thought.
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Here is a video I found on YouTube talking about how he installed the lift on his Allego Bus and the mods he did to the garage enclosure, still not sure if it would work on a full dresser. He has a bunch of video, so click on his name to see other that he post about the lift.

https://youtu.be/1E29S_-c9Zo

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Are you saying that North Trail RV is the one doing the mounting of your lift? If so, talk to them about cutting the Hydraulic line from the lift to the pump so that a Quick-disconnect can be installed. That will help with disconnecting the lift and removing it for service on the coach's tail section. You'll have to have a weather proof plug for the electric side too. I had so many guys wish they'd have done the same system of being able to remove that lift, at a moments notice.
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Are you saying that North Trail RV is the one doing the mounting of your lift? If so, talk to them about cutting the Hydraulic line from the lift to the pump so that a Quick-disconnect can be installed. That will help with disconnecting the lift and removing it for service on the coach's tail section. You'll have to have a weather proof plug for the electric side too. I had so many guys wish they'd have done the same system of being able to remove that lift, at a moments notice.
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Scott,
Yes, North Trail will do the install and I already asked about the quick connects however, the installer was not there today.
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Yes, North Trail will do the install and I already asked about the quick connects however, the installer was not there today.
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Roger that, let me know if you have any questions regarding any portion of your install etc. Glad to help.
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Roger that, let me know if you have any questions regarding any portion of your install etc. Glad to help.
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Thank you but it will be next week as we found a couple of warranty items they will do while the coach is in the shop
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Fire Up is one Swell Guy,
He spent a lot of time sending me pictures and info for my Hydralift, Sad to say I still haven't got it installed, Procrastinator I have become !!!
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