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Old 01-28-2016, 08:51 AM   #1
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Motorhome Hot Skin

Someone on another thread accused me of making up a joke about the danger of using wood blocks or planks as jack pads and levelers. You should not use wood without a non conductive pad or block on top. Wood conducts electricity and it really conducts it when wet. During a thunderstorm of if there is a bad ground from your campground power source, using wood pads can cause a condition call RV HOT SKIN, this can be very dangerous even fatal. I personally have experienced this as a kid many years ago, I grabbed the handle of a travel trailer and received the shock of my life, knocked me to the ground.
I suggest you read the following and take it very, very, seriously.

http://http://yourfulltimervliving.com/rv-hot-skin-condition-causes-death-of-a-young-boy
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Hot skin is real but the jack pads are not proper correction.

Not sure what the issue was there but the rest of the article was good reading.

Have seen many interesting things at remote communications sites where solid rock is the local ground source and it all goes back to proper process and work.

If the safety ground is bad at pedestal then take corrective action.

And a lightening strike can be much more than the pedestal can handle.

One should strive to keep their systems working in proper order but worrying about grounding via jacks not so much...

Always check before you plug in.
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I prefer to listen to experts who manufacture energy systems and not take chances, what you do (including thinking this is bunk) is up to you.

If it were bunk and I am wrong than I am out 35 bucks for 4 nice heavy duty hard plastic pads with handles, if you are wrong....well....
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If the RV has "hot skin", then conductivity between the jacks and the ground is a good thing. Isolating the RV from earth ground just makes your body the conductor for any stray electricity when you step from RV to the outside earth.
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If the RV has "hot skin", then conductivity between the jacks and the ground is a good thing. Isolating the RV from earth ground just makes your body the conductor for any stray electricity when you step from RV to the outside earth.
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Wood is not a conductor of electricity! Moister in the wood is a conductor. Water running down wood or plastic becomes the conduit or path for current. your tires are not a conductor for electricity. having your levelers direct on the ground will become the conduit for electricity. If your RV is not grounded properly and you isolated from ground via, wood, plastic, rubber, and you step out onto the ground holding on too the RV you become the conduit completing the circuit to ground. This will light up your life.
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If the RV has "hot skin", then conductivity between the jacks and the ground is a good thing. Isolating the RV from earth ground just makes your body the conductor for any stray electricity when you step from RV to the outside earth.
YES. And this is why I always leap off my steps to avoid remaining in contact with the RV and the ground at the same time. If you think this is funny you should see my approach technique.
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If an rv has a hot skin, something is wrong with the electrical system and needs to be corrected
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Silly question but what is happening when you run the generator. The coach is not grounded at all. Is there a risk of shock as you are stepping in/out of the coach.
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The whole time I was reading that article I was thinking that the real solution to this issue was a separate grounding strap for the RV which is essentially doing what the author claims the wet wood is doing. I'm not sure how the hypothetical child in the article would die if there was continuity through the landing leg, wet wood and ground. In that case the RV would be grounded so there would be no potential to dissipate through the child.
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Silly question but what is happening when you run the generator. The coach is not grounded at all. Is there a risk of shock as you are stepping in/out of the coach.
Not unless you have a serious wiring issue and I think that would be handled by circuit breakers and fuses.
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Silly question but what is happening when you run the generator. The coach is not grounded at all. Is there a risk of shock as you are stepping in/out of the coach.
Your Gen has an internal equipment ground in it grounding the circuit to the frame. If an electrical problem (a short) will trip the gen breaker. If this ground becomes disconnected then you become at risk for getting shocked.
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Silly question but what is happening when you run the generator. The coach is not grounded at all. Is there a risk of shock as you are stepping in/out of the coach.
I asked that question in a portable genetator post. No one could recall hearing of a fatal shock.
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The whole time I was reading that article I was thinking that the real solution to this issue was a separate grounding strap for the RV which is essentially doing what the author claims the wet wood is doing. I'm not sure how the hypothetical child in the article would die if there was continuity through the landing leg, wet wood and ground. In that case the RV would be grounded so there would be no potential to dissipate through the child.
Electricity will take the easiest path to ground. The child will become a better conductor of electricity.
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